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<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;">Hi everyone,</div>
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<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"><a href="http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-3345846/Sign-language-accent">http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-3345846/Sign-language-accent</a></div>
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<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;">Just a head’s up about this: no surprises here, but the media reports</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;">about this are inaccurate. </div>
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<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;">My understanding is that the researchers in Philadelphia are undertaking</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;">a study to see if there is evidence in their corpus of a distinctive</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;">Philadelphia ‘accent’ in American Sign Language (ASL) - they’ve not yet</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;">found one, but there are anecdotal reports of one. The evidence for the</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;">existence of regional ‘accents’ for sign languages such as ASL, Auslan and British</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;">Sign Language is unclear. While there are clearly documented differences</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;">across the US and Australia in how particular signs are produced, I’ve not yet seen any</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;">evidence yet that native signers can tell WHERE someone is from in the US, Australia</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;">or the UK based on the way they produce specific phonological features of</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;">signs alone. We’ve plenty of evidence of regional dialect differences</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;">based on lexical differences, but not accent as such. On the other hand, it is</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;">clear that second language learners produce ASL and BSL signs with an</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;">‘accent’, and there is also work on Black and White ASL which shows some</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;">interesting sociophonetic differences between these varieties.</div>
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<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;">The most accurate report I’ve seen thus far is here: http://www.upenn.edu/pennnews/news/penn-linguists-document-philadelphia-accent-american-sign-language</div>
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<span style="font-weight:bold">From: </span>linguists interested in signed languages <<a href="mailto:SLLING-L@LISTSERV.VALENCIACOLLEGE.EDU">SLLING-L@LISTSERV.VALENCIACOLLEGE.EDU</a>> on behalf of Barbara Gerner De Garcia <<a href="mailto:barbara.gerner.de.garcia@GALLAUDET.EDU">barbara.gerner.de.garcia@GALLAUDET.EDU</a>><br>
<span style="font-weight:bold">Reply-To: </span>linguists interested in signed languages <<a href="mailto:SLLING-L@LISTSERV.VALENCIACOLLEGE.EDU">SLLING-L@LISTSERV.VALENCIACOLLEGE.EDU</a>><br>
<span style="font-weight:bold">Date: </span>Thursday, 3 December 2015 at 01:45<br>
<span style="font-weight:bold">To: </span>"<a href="mailto:SLLING-L@LISTSERV.VALENCIACOLLEGE.EDU">SLLING-L@LISTSERV.VALENCIACOLLEGE.EDU</a>" <<a href="mailto:SLLING-L@LISTSERV.VALENCIACOLLEGE.EDU">SLLING-L@LISTSERV.VALENCIACOLLEGE.EDU</a>><br>
<span style="font-weight:bold">Subject: </span>Re: Numerical Incorporation for Age signs in ASL<br>
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<div dir="ltr">Indeed!<br>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Dec 2, 2015 at 9:25 AM, Boris Fridman Mintz <span dir="ltr">
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Illuminating response. Isn´t it?<br>
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> On Dec 2, 2015, at 2:17 AM, Elton, Frances <<a href="mailto:f.elton@UCL.AC.UK">f.elton@UCL.AC.UK</a>> wrote:<br>
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> Please don't take in research by hearing people, only take in by Deaf people.<br>
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> Frances Elton MA, DCAL, UCL<br>
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>> On 2 Dec 2015, at 08:27, Sarah Hafer <<a href="mailto:sarah.hafer@GMAIL.COM">sarah.hafer@GMAIL.COM</a>> wrote:<br>
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>> I understand that some publishings say the age signs in ASL where the numbers are<br>
>> blended with the OLD sign for ASL are part of the numerical incorporation category. For<br>
>> some reason, it just does not feel right to me that these should be classified as numberical<br>
>> incorporation. I want to say it is because of some kind of phonological process such as<br>
>> phonological reduction. Then i saw one website says these AGE signs in ASL are rather<br>
>> 'assimilation,' and that felt quite more right to me.<br>
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>> I am wondering what are your take on this? Any scientific publishing on how the AGE signs<br>
>> in ASL are perhaps not numerical incorporation but rather something else?<br>
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>> Sarah<br>
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