[sw-l] Hope, and hope for the future!

Valerie Sutton sutton at signwriting.org
Wed Jul 14 19:11:02 UTC 2004


SignWriting List
July 14, 2004

Dear SW List, Hope and Stefan -
Gosh. I am blushing with your kind words...my face is turning red - ha!!

It is true that I have a seat of iron...I sit for long hours until jobs 
are done. Back in the mid-1970's we used to do DanceWriting documents 
with transfer sheets of wax symbols. I would create beautiful 
DanceWriting documents with those wax symbols...it took 8 hours to do 
one full page of DanceWriting. The Bournonville Monday School book, 
which preserved the dances taught at the Royal Danish Ballet....that 
book was 40 full pages of DanceWriting, so I sat steadily for 40 days 
to finish it...never taking a break....My family joked about this 
saying that I had an iron seat (meaning that I could sit for long 
times) and an iron will (I never stopped until I was finished)...the 
book took 40 days and 40 nights! That was back in 1975 and I am still 
doing this in 2004 ;-)

Well...the IMWA is wonderful because I am listing DanceWriting and 
SignWriting symbols together in a long listing that will give us a 
chance to really share the entire writing system...So it is worth it, 
although I must say I am getting a little tired of it...

And regarding names...Every language has beautiful names and Hope is 
one of the most beautiful in the English language, I think, because it 
is so hopeful!!! smile... We even have the name Faith...and some are 
named after the months...April, May and June...I have never met a 
person named July though, have you? ;-)

Val ;-)

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On Jul 14, 2004, at 10:25 AM, Stefan Woehrmann wrote:

> Hi Hope (what an interesting name!) , Valerie and listers ,,
>
>
> Hope wrote:"... Hmm! Interesting work you are doing, but SO tedious.   
> I am
> glad it is not
> me!"...
>
>
> - smile -
>
> I am afraid none of us would be able to do this! But it is not only the
> immense amount and quality of Valerie's achievements. It is the 
> generosity
> to share here ideas, inventions, concepts with us and to accept our 
> attitude
> to expect her to teach us unless we feel well informed to understand
> movementwriting.
>
> Thank you Valerie and all the best for your IMWA - project - I am sure 
> that
> there are other projects waiting for you on your and our to do  list!!
>
> Stefan ;-))
>
> -----Urspr√ľngliche Nachricht-----
> Von: owner-sw-l at majordomo.valenciacc.edu
> [mailto:owner-sw-l at majordomo.valenciacc.edu]Im Auftrag von Hope Hurlbut
> Gesendet: Mittwoch, 14. Juli 2004 08:47
> An: sw-l at majordomo.valenciacc.edu
> Betreff: Re: [sw-l] Symbol Group folders and PDF listings...
>
>
> Dear Valerie,
> Hmm! Interesting work you are doing, but SO tedious.   I am glad it is 
> not
> me!
> I will be interested to see some of your results.  Maybe some of the
> SignWriting symbols  that I have "invented" are already available in 
> the
> work you are doing.  When I put pieces together, they are not very 
> elegant.
> Sincerely,
> Hope
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Valerie Sutton" <sutton at signwriting.org>
> To: "SIGNWRITING List" <sw-l at majordomo.valenciacc.edu>
> Sent: Monday, July 12, 2004 2:33 AM
> Subject: [sw-l] Symbol Group folders and PDF listings...
>
>
>> SignWriting List
>> July 11, 2004
>>
>> Dear SignWriting Listers:
>> The International Movement Writing Alphabet (IMWA), SSS-2004, is a
>> listing of all of the symbols in SignWriting and DanceWriting. There
>> are 50 groups of symbols. I am finalizing each group of symbols, one 
>> by
>> one.
>>
>> Today I posted Group 01-05: Five Fingers. It is a large group...42
>> handshapes. Some are unusual, since some are used more in DanceWriting
>> than SignWriting. And some of the unusual handshapes come from Irish
>> Sign Language...like flat hands that have a space between the middle
>> and index fingers....and also I added some variations of relaxed
>> fingers forward...Ingvild...perhaps you could check to see if your 
>> need
>> is solved now?...Take a look at the PDF for Five Fingers...
>>
>> To download the PDF documents, or the graphics files for each group, 
>> go
>> to this web page:
>>
>> SSS-2004 Group Folders and PDF Documents
>> http://www.SignBank.org/symbolbank/sss2004list.html
>>
>> I am now working on Group 01-06: Baby Finger (hands that relate to the
>> baby finger in some way)...
>>
>> This is slow work. I have been cleaning up inconsistencies in the
>> rotations. It is good that I am doing that, but it means re-numbering
>> thousands of symbols...some can be re-numbered quickly with 
>> specialized
>> software, but others have to be re-numbered manually, since there is 
>> no
>> consistent pattern...and then these new numbers have to be re-entered
>> into the SymbolBank database...smile...
>>
>> I pray this work will benefit the world...A consistent symbolset 
>> should
>> lead to better software ...and better software may lead to increased
>> sign language literacy...
>>
>> I hope someone will answer this message, so I can see if the List is
>> working!!...smile...
>>
>> Val ;-)
>>
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