transcribed ASL poetry

Kimberley A. Shaw kshaw at WELLESLEY.EDU
Mon Jul 11 19:02:23 UTC 2005

Hello Val:
of course! I have appreciated having free rein to use any/all of the DAC
publications, and am very happy that you are making the transfer to the
DVD format. However useful the children's stories are, though, I'd like to
see more SW of Deaf literature itself, by and for the grownups. So, my
short-term goal is to get the reader together as is (with fully half of
its content directly from the DAC online literature!) ... but I have the
long-term goal of hoping that a reader like this can spur more adult
signers to write down their *own* stories/poems/jokes etc -- or at least,
that I can get more signers in my own circle to let me write down *their*
favorite stories etc! 
As far as transcribing from video, that's gonna take practice! But will
give it a go.
Knock on wood, and stay tuned,

sw-l at on Monday, July 11, 2005 at 1:21 PM -0500
>SignWriting List
>July 11, 2005
>Kim -
>If you are looking for ASL videos to transcribe, you are welcome to  
>transcribe any of ours...ones that my organization, the Center For  
>Sutton Movement Writing, and the Deaf Action Committee have  
>published. At the moment, we have the SignWriting Children's Stories  
>Series video and DVD, that has four stories signed in ASL and two out  
>of the four...Snow White and Sleeping Beauty, have not been  
>transcribed yet...they are not Deaf poetry, but at least you have the  
>publisher's full permission and your transcription would be  
>invaluable to us! I will be posting a way to order the DVD soon...  
>Val ;-)
>On Jul 11, 2005, at 10:09 AM, Kimberley A. Shaw wrote:
>Hello Val:
>The marketing angle does make sense to me. I've been turned down by Deaf
>Life Press as well, when I asked if I could transcribe "Crackers" from
>"Meeting halfway in American Sign Language" -- which is why there is  
>now a
>book review in my ASL anthology (how could they argue against a nice,
>little illustrative quote?). However, I had been planning on sending  
>a complimentary copy of the anthology, with a little note pointing out
>that they are getting free publicity here, as far as marketing this
>particular book goes!
>sw-l at on Monday, July 11, 2005 at 12:00 PM -0500
>> SignWriting List
>> July 11, 2005
>> Hello Kim and Everyone -
>> No, we have never transcribed those works...
>> We have never transcribed any videos from DawnSign Press because of
>> permission issues, so I would be very careful. Write to ask
>> permission, but don't expect miracles! Perhaps you could write
>> directly to the authors of those works to see how they feel about it.
>> If they don't mind, then perhaps they can convince DawnSign press...I
>> don't think it has anything to do with whether they understand what
>> SignWriting is or not...I think they want to make sales...If you
>> could convince them that your work would increase their sales, that
>> might be different...For example, the transcription could be included
>> with their package when they sell it to people...but that kind of
>> work will take a contract and I will have to personally be involved
>> with the contract. So I would suggest working with less famous  
>> authors!
>> Val ;-)
>> -------------------
>> On Jul 11, 2005, at 8:19 AM, Kimberley A. Shaw wrote:
>> Hello everyone:
>> before I go and possibly re-duplicate somebody else's work ... have
>> any of
>> you ASL SignWriters transcribed poetry by Clayton Valli or Ella Mae
>> Lenz?
>> Or other contemporary ASL poets?
>> Do you know if they (or their publishers) will give permission to
>> transcribe & distribute from their published videos, or if such
>> permission
>> is even necessary? I figure that one poem out of a whole collection
>> should
>> be well within copyright fair-use guidelines. On the other hand, I  
>> have
>> already approached DawnSign Press about transcribing *one* story from
>> the
>> Signing Naturally #2 video for the ASL Reader I'm making, and have  
>> been
>> turned down. (They've granted me permission to use the  
>> transcription in
>> class only, but not to distribute it beyond my own and my classmates'
>> use.) I'm also not sure if DawnSign realizes that this is still  
>> *in* ASL
>> and not the equivalent of glossing.
>> Allabest,
>> Kim from Boston

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