good news - another two Belgian schools supporting SW

Steve Slevinski slevin at SIGNPUDDLE.NET
Mon Oct 17 14:49:51 UTC 2005


Hi Stuart,

The problem is that no one has gone thru the SSS-2002 and compared it to 
the IMWA for a symbol by symbol mapping.  The basic hand shapes would be 
easy to complete.  The additional symbols have changed locations 
significantly.  They would take quite a bit of time.

Once we have the mapping, then we would need a conversion from the SWML 
of SignEdit using the SSS-2002 to the SWML of SignPuddle using the IMWA. 

Neither step should be very complicated, but the time required to 
complete it is prohibitive. I know neither Val nor I have the time to do 
the mapping between the symbol sets.  This would be a great project, but 
it is not trivial.

-Steve

Stuart Thiessen wrote:

> Isn't it in SWML though?  Couldn't a XSLT be applied to SignEdit's 
> SWML  to transform it to something that can be imported into 
> SignPuddle? Then  they can clean up anything that was imported?
>
> Just a thought.
>
> Stuart
>
> On Oct 17, 2005, at 7:22, Steve Slevinski wrote:
>
>> Hi Kathleen,
>>
>> Unfortunately, SignEdit does not use the IMWA.  It uses an earlier  
>> symbol set.  SSS-2002 I believe.
>>
>> If he wants to use SignPuddle, he will have to start over.
>>
>> Only SignBank and SignPuddle use the IMWA.  I'm hoping that other  
>> application will start soon.
>>
>> -Steve
>>
>> Kasterlinden Bilinguaal wrote:
>>
>>> Hello Val,
>>>
>>> I sent the good news to Damien and he asked me if SignEdit and  
>>> Signpuddle are compatible.. he has made a lot of signs in SignEdit  
>>> and I think he`s worried he`ll have to do it all over again ;)
>>>
>>> Greetings Kathleen
>>>
>>>      
>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- 
>>> -- 
>>>     From: /"Damien ilmh" <damien.huvelle at ilmh.be>/
>>>     To: /"Kasterlinden Bilinguaal" <katjesaar at hotmail.com>/
>>>     Subject: /Re: Re: [sw-l] good news - another two Belgian schools
>>>     supporting SW/
>>>     Date: /Mon, 17 Oct 2005 10:54:39 +0200/
>>>
>>>     Hello Kathleen,
>>>          at the moment, I mostly use SignEdit. The signs that 
>>> already  are
>>>     on the SignPuddle BE-Fr page are from Bruno Sonnemans, a deaf
>>>     colleague who was present at the conference this summer at
>>>     Kasterlinden. He and Thierry, another deaf colleague, are at the
>>>     moment collecting data and the dictionary already includes more
>>>     than 600 signs. Nevertheless, as they are only at the beginning
>>>     and not so sure whether the transcriptions are correct, they also
>>>     use SignEdit at the moment. I know they are impressed by the
>>>     Flemish Signpuddle and borrowing signs from there too.
>>>          But I do not know whether SignEdit and SignPuddle are  
>>> compatible...
>>>          I'll ask them.
>>>          Thanks for your help.
>>>          Kind regards,
>>>          Damien
>>>
>>>         ----- Original Message -----
>>>         *From:* Kasterlinden Bilinguaal <mailto:katjesaar at hotmail.com>
>>>         *To:* damien.huvelle at ilmh.be <mailto:damien.huvelle at ilmh.be>
>>>         *Sent:* Sunday, October 16, 2005 3:17 PM
>>>         *Subject:* FW: Re: [sw-l] good news - another two Belgian
>>>         schools supporting SW
>>>
>>>         Hello Damien,
>>>
>>>         while waiting for news from my colleagues about a first
>>>         meeting I thought I'd inform you about the website of Valerie
>>>         Sutton. I don't know if you know about it or use it already...
>>>
>>>         http://signbank.org/signpuddle/sgn-BE-fr
>>>
>>>         If you look at this link you'll see there are already some
>>>         sings in there: I don't know who made them :s If you have any
>>>         questions on how to use Signpuddle please ask ;) And if there
>>>         are signs which are the same in Flemish Sign Language you can
>>>         save a lot of work and copy them from the Flemish 
>>> Signpuddle  ;)
>>>
>>>         So if you have any questions, please ask ;)
>>>
>>>         Greetings Kathleen
>>>
>>>
>>>              
>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- 
>>> -- 
>>>             From:  /"Valerie Sutton" <sutton at signwriting.org>/
>>>             Reply-To:  /sw-l at majordomo.valenciacc.edu/
>>>             To:  /sw-l at majordomo.valenciacc.edu/
>>>             Subject:  /Re: [sw-l] good news - another two Belgian
>>>             schools supporting SW/
>>>             Date:  /Fri, 14 Oct 2005 20:48:36 -0700/
>>>             >SignWriting List
>>>             >October 14, 2005
>>>             >
>>>             >Hello Shane, Kathleen and everyone -
>>>             >This is great news. Thanks for telling us...;-)
>>>             >
>>>             >We already have a SignPuddle set up for French-speaking
>>>             Belgium:
>>>             >
>>>             >Walloon Sign Language
>>>             >http://signbank.org/signpuddle/sgn-BE-fr
>>>             >
>>>             >Feel free to start adding signs any time...
>>>             >
>>>             >Val ;-)
>>>             >
>>>             >------------------------
>>>             >
>>>             >
>>>             >
>>>             >On Oct 14, 2005, at 9:34 AM, Shane O hEorpa wrote:
>>>             >
>>>             >>Good news here.
>>>             >>
>>>             >>I was told that two Belgian deaf schools (french
>>>             speaking) have              >>decided to introduce  
>>> Sign-Writing to its classroom teaching
>>>             >>
>>>             >>It is IRSA at Uccle and another school in Liege.
>>>             >>
>>>             >>Damien Huvel, a researcher of LSFB at Marie Haps, is
>>>             behind the              >>move - he was present at the  
>>> ESWO Conference - with
>>>             Thierry              >>Haesenne's help - with extra  
>>> support from our lovely
>>>             Kathleen, they
>>>             >>  hope it will take off ground :-)
>>>             >>
>>>             >>Very pleased - and good news for ESWO!
>>>             >>
>>>             >>Shane (ESWO)
>>>             >>
>>>             >>
>>>             >
>>>             >
>>>
>>>
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