List software problems...

Valerie Sutton sutton at SIGNWRITING.ORG
Wed Oct 18 17:41:03 UTC 2006

SignWriting List
October 18, 2006

Dear SW Listers!
There are five Lists that are housed and managed by software located  
at Valencia Community College in Orlando, Florida:

They include:

SLLING - Sign Language Linguists List
SW-L - SignWriting List
TeachASL List
Interpreter's List
and another one from Canada

Located here:

And all this is donated to us...we are fortunate!

However, paradise is now limited, because four problems have developed:

1. Huge Amount of Spam... is hitting the List management software is a shame, because it is clogging the distribution of  
messages to List members...

2. Old Email Addresses... that were abandoned by users, are throwing  
returns back to the List management software, clogging up  
distribution of messages to the good email addresses...When a List  
member abandons an old email address, you need to delete it from the  
Lists that the old address was on...out of courtesy to those who want  
to be on the Lists...

To delete an old address, go to:

3. Full Mail Boxes....people who have good working email addresses,  
go away and do not check their email for months at a time...and those  
messages that state that Your Mail Box is Full, are being sent back  
to the List management software, and that is also clogging the if you use Hotmail, please check your mail occasionally and  
empty your mail box too, so the List managers are not being deluged  
with messages saying your mail box is full!

4. And sadly, some domain names, like and others, are so  
desparate themselves with these problems that they block the List  
messages sometimes...but that is partly due to the fact that people  
need to clean out their full mail boxes..

So what is the result of all this?

Only SOME messages are making it to the Lists and others never make  
it into your mail boxes. This means you need to check the Archives  
more, but not all messages are making it to the Archives either!

My conclusion?

We can continue to post small SignWriting diagrams to the List, and  
also SignText and SignPuddle email, but no large photos or large  
diagrams like before...any diagram that is over 20k is not posting  
and the entire message is lost...

Just thought I would tell you about some of my frustrations as the  
manager of the SW List!!

More soon (without diagrams ;-))

Val ;-)

Valerie Sutton
Sutton at

1. SignWriting
Read & Write Sign Languages

2. SignBank
Create Sign Language Databases

3. SignPuddle
Create Sign Language Dictionaries

4. SignText
Create Sign Language Documents

5. SignWriting List
Technical Support: Ask questions to the List

6. DanceWriting
Read & Write Dance Movement

7. MovementWriting
Read & Write All Body Movement

8. SymbolBank
International Movement Writing Alphabet

9. Non-profit Organization
Center for Sutton Movement Writing

SignWriting Literacy Project
The DAC, Deaf Action Committee
Center For Sutton Movement Writing
an educational nonprofit organization
P.O. Box 517, La Jolla, CA, 92038, USA
tel 858-456-0098   fax 858-456-0020
D-Link Videophone:
Skype Name: valeriesutton

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