Further Progress on ASL Wikipedia

Valerie Sutton signwriting at MAC.COM
Thu Apr 12 03:41:10 UTC 2007

SignWriting List
April 11, 2007

Hello Adam!
Yes...and thanks for that...

I just printed out the entire discussion that is posted on the  
Wikimedia comments area. That way I could read all the comments  
carefully...sometimes my eyes get tired reading on a screen...

So leafing through it I noticed you had posted some messages, and  
also Charles and Stuart and Steve - An interesting discussion! I am  
looking forward to reading it in detail now...I notice there is a  
contributor from Norway and Texas, both very positive. Only one  
negative post, and that post doesn't have a name connected with the  
message...only a number! So he or she will remain anonymous ;-))

Nice to see the interest in an ASL Wikipedia...and I hope SignPuddle  
1.5 can be of service...

Val ;-)

On Apr 11, 2007, at 8:30 PM, Adam Frost wrote:

> This would be a good thing when this happens. (And I commented so  
> on Wikimeta). I had even mentioned this a little before that I  
> thought that this would be possible, but it is always better to  
> have it said several ways by different people at random times. ;-)
> Adam
> On 4/11/07, Valerie Sutton <signwriting at mac.com> wrote: SignWriting  
> List
> April 11, 2007
> On Apr 11, 2007, at 12:38 AM, Pharos wrote:
> > I would encourage the members of the list to please have a look  
> at the
> > continuing discussions at the proposal page for the ASL Wikipedia; a
> > number of new issues have been raised since SignWriting community
> > people last participated.  In particular, any more detail on  
> proposed
> > methods for inputting SignWriting onto the wiki would be very  
> helpful.
> >
> > http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_new_languages/
> > Wikipedia_American_Sign_Language_2
> >
> > Just click "edit" to add a comment.  Don't be overly concerned with
> > correct alignment of the different threads- I'll correct any
> > formatting errors you may accidentally make.
> Hello Pharos!
> I just posted my message to the link you gave us above.
> It was fun posting a message on Wikimedia.org...I hope I did it half
> correctly! ;-))
> Val ;-)
> Here is a copy of the message I posted....
> ==== ASL Wikipedia Can Be Setup On The SignPuddle 1.5 Online Site
> Immediately ====
> SignPuddle 1.5 is software for SignWriting that has its roots in wiki-
> based programming...
> It provides a free-online dictionary and text editor (SignText) for
> SignWriting right now, on the web, where people contribute both
> dictionary-entries of individual signs, and also longer literature
> documents, in an online SignPuddle Community...
> SignPuddle Online
> http://www.SignBank.org/signpuddle
> ASL Dictionary Online in SignPuddle 1.5
> http://www.signbank.org/SignPuddle1.5/index.php?ui=1&sgn=4
> ASL Literature Online in SignPuddle 1.5
> http://www.signbank.org/SignPuddle1.5/index.php?ui=1&sgn=5
> I strongly suggest that we start a Wikipedia-Puddle for ASL on our
> SignPuddle 1.5 site, using our current software exactly as it
> is...This would mean that we could start the ASL translations of
> Wikipedia articles as early as tomorrow, if we have volunteers to do
> the writing and permission from Wikimedia of course.
> To create the ASL documents and dictionaries for Wikipedia, authors
> would be required to go to our SignPuddle 1.5 site to prepare the
> documents and dictionary entries. Perhaps they could click on a
> special link in Wikipedia that would take them to our Wikipedia-
> Puddle on the SignPuddle 1.5 site, to do the SignWriting data entry...
> This way, we could get started immediately without doing any extra
> programming...we can even upload video connected with the documents
> on our SignPuddle site, and the Wikipedia site could choose to load
> those on their site or not, or just link to the Wikipedia-SignPuddle-
> ASL site on our server.
> The Wikimedia group could possibly transfer the documents from our
> SignPuddle site to the Wikipedia site if they prefer, after they are
> created on SignPuddle...either way would work is my guess...it would
> be easier to just leave everything on our server...and visitors to
> Wikipedia could be directed to the ASL Wikipedia on the SignPuddle
> site...
> If Wikimedia wants us to make SignPuddle function directly on the
> Wikipedia site, that would take special programming changes and we
> would have to write a grant together, as two 501c3 non-profit
> organizations, to ask for funds to help pay for the re-programming
> necessary...that would take a year or two no matter what, because it
> takes time to write the grants and get the funding and then do the
> programming...and then start the translations...but i am open on
> starting the grant writing immediately too..
> So I personally vote for us creating a special Wikipedia-SignPuddle
> on our SignPuddle site soon...perhaps today...I really mean that...it
> is that simple.
> If you agree, we can setup a special Wikipedia-ASL SignPuddle, and
> get started immediately.
> We will need volunteers to start the writing, because at this moment
> we have no funding for the project...We are happy to help people
> learn to use the software.
> Shall we do this? I look forward to your response!
> Val ;-)
> Valerie Sutton
> Sutton at SignWriting.org
> 1. SignWriting
> Read & Write Sign Languages
> http://www.SignWriting.org
> 2. SignBank
> Create Sign Language Databases
> http://www.SignBank.org
> 3. SignPuddle
> Create Sign Language Dictionaries
> http://www.SignBank.org/signpuddle
> 4. Non-profit Organization
> Center for Sutton Movement Writing
> http://www.SignWriting.org/forums/sponsors
> SignWriting Literature Project
> The DAC, Deaf Action Committee
> Center For Sutton Movement Writing
> an educational nonprofit organization
> P.O. Box 517, La Jolla, CA, 92038, USA
> tel 858-456-0098   fax 858-456-0020
> D-Link Videophone:
> Skype Name: valeriesutton

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