Sleeping Beauty Video 1-2
kjoanne403 at HOTMAIL.COM
Mon Apr 23 02:14:38 UTC 2007
Thanks Val! That certainly clears things up... I actually wanted to write
the beginning hand positions for "king", "queen" and "children"; it seemed
more intuitive, so I'm going to do that from now on.
I'll be posting the next part of Video 2 later this evening. And, as of
next week, I'll be moving a lot faster on the transcribing because I'm
leaving my job at the end of this week. :-) I'm hoping to have the main
transcription done before my course starts.
Talk to you later!
>From: "Valerie Sutton" <signwriting at MAC.COM>
>Reply-To: sw-l at majordomo.valenciacc.edu
>To: sw-l at majordomo.valenciacc.edu
>Subject: Re: [sw-l] Sleeping Beauty Video 1-2
>Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2007 18:20:19 -0700
>April 22, 2007
>K.J. Boal wrote:
>>Well, you said if we're going to write only one position, it's better to
>>write the end position than the beginning... and I like your way of
>>writing "children"; I wouldn't have thought of that.
>You are absolutely right...I did say that! ;-)
>It is my fault for not being more detailed with my answer...
>Writing the second position is best when we are writing Finger Movements.
>That was what I was thinking, when we discussed that before...But I should
>have realized when I said that, that there are other circumstances...
>1. Small Finger Movements Need the Ending Position
>When finger movements are involved, there are two different handshapes
>involved with the sign...a beginning position that is different than the
>ending position (the result of the action)...so if a position is taken
>away, we need to see the second position, or the result of the action...
>like ELEVEN or SLEEP
>But then there are these two circumstances:
>2. Always Write the Position of Contact
>In a sign that has only one position of contact, the position of contact
>is written, and then from there you write the movement relating to the
>position...Although the position of contact is oftentimes the second
>position, it isn't always...for example it is the first position in the
>sign for GIRL, and SYMBOL
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>3. No Change in Hand Position (you can write either)...
>In the case of KING and QUEEN, there is no change in handshape, and there
>are two positions of contact, so if you chose to write the first hand
>position and throw out the second hand position, the same information
>would be there for the reader either way...so either choice is correct...
>I enjoyed reading your writing of the signs for KING and QUEEN...It would
>be interesting to show the two ways of writing to see which people
>And the same thing for the sign for CHILDREN...the handshape is the same
>throughout so putting the hands at the beginning or the end of the sign is
>fine...for some reason we usually put the hands at the beginning for those
>kinds of signs...
>I hope this has been helpful...
>Sorry for the confusion...
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