RocketSigns

Wed Dec 12 21:17:37 UTC 2007

ABC (A Basic Course in Manual Communication).  It's been a standard around Gallaudet for years to walk through English and ASL grammar through the process of learning particular signs and their placement.

  Charles Butler

Valerie Sutton <signwriting at mac.com> wrote:
  SignWriting List
December 12, 2007

Hi Cherie -
Thanks for this information. This is what we needed to know ;-)

I guess they are individual signs in a dictionary....using American 
signs that exist in ASL...but maybe he is not trying to teach grammar...

If you were to choose a course in American Sign Language to write in 
SignWriting, which one would you choose?

Val ;-)

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On Dec 12, 2007, at 12:47 PM, Cherie Wren wrote:

>
> "I am curious what all of you think of this new ASL course, that
> started advertizing through Google ads on our SignWriting home 
> page..."
>
> Its not ASL, if the video of Jake talking about his course is any 
> indication. He is signing straight English word order.. Of 
> course, you can write signed English in SW, I just have objections 
> to it being marketed as an ASL course...
>
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> 3. Re: Curious for your opinion... (Rodrigo Ferreira Bagni)
> 4. Re: Curious for your opinion... (Valerie Sutton)
> 5. Re: Curious for your opinion... ( Adam Frost )
> 6. Re: Curious for your opinion... ( Adam Frost )
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> ----- Message from "Valerie Sutton" on Wed, 
> 12 Dec 2007 10:38:42 -0800 -----
> To:
> "SignWriting List" 
> Subject:
> [sw-l] Curious for your opinion...
>
> SignWriting List
> December 12, 2007
>
> I am curious what all of you think of this new ASL course, that
> started advertizing through Google ads on our SignWriting home page...
>
> http://www.rocketlanguages.com/sign-language/premium/specialoffer.php
>
> Have you ever seen this new course?
>
> We could write to them to ask permission to write it in SignWriting.
>
> Do you think that would be a good idea?
>
> Val ;-)
>
>
> ----- Message from GerardM on Wed, 12 
> Dec 2007 20:00:22 +0100 -----
> To:
> "SignWriting List" 
> Subject:
> Re: [sw-l] Curious for your opinion...
>
> Hoi,
> They advertise that they do not have weird and wonderful 
> drawings ... and that you as a student do not need them :) Now 
> obviously, SignWriting is writing ASL but I am sure that Jake does 
> not know about SignWriting and if he does I am interested in his 
> opinion about SignWriting ... :)
> Thanks,
> Gerard
>
> On Dec 12, 2007 7:38 PM, Valerie Sutton wrote:
> SignWriting List
> December 12, 2007
>
> I am curious what all of you think of this new ASL course, that
> started advertizing through Google ads on our SignWriting home page...
>
> http://www.rocketlanguages.com/sign-language/premium/specialoffer.php
>
> Have you ever seen this new course?
>
> We could write to them to ask permission to write it in SignWriting.
>
> Do you think that would be a good idea?
>
> Val ;-)
>
>
>
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> ----- Message from "Rodrigo Ferreira Bagni" on 
> Wed, 12 Dec 2007 16:08:51 -0300 -----
> To:
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> Subject:
> Re: [sw-l] Curious for your opinion...
>
> Maybe not.
> Because he says that it is difficult to read the pictures and 
> drawings because they are bad.
> In case of SignWriting it is different, you can read the sign very 
> well, but first you have to learn it.
>
>
> On Dec 12, 2007 4:00 PM, GerardM wrote:
> Hoi,
> They advertise that they do not have weird and wonderful 
> drawings ... and that you as a student do not need them :) Now 
> obviously, SignWriting is writing ASL but I am sure that Jake does 
> not know about SignWriting and if he does I am interested in his 
> opinion about SignWriting ... :)
> Thanks,
> Gerard
>
>
> On Dec 12, 2007 7:38 PM, Valerie Sutton wrote:
> SignWriting List
> December 12, 2007
>
> I am curious what all of you think of this new ASL course, that
> started advertizing through Google ads on our SignWriting home page...
>
> http://www.rocketlanguages.com/sign-language/premium/specialoffer.php
>
> Have you ever seen this new course?
>
> We could write to them to ask permission to write it in SignWriting.
>
> Do you think that would be a good idea?
>
> Val ;-)
>
>
>
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> -- 
> Rodrigo Ferreira Bagni
> ----- Message from "Valerie Sutton" on Wed, 
> 12 Dec 2007 11:10:47 -0800 -----
> To:
> "SignWriting List" 
> Subject:
> Re: [sw-l] Curious for your opinion...
>
> SignWriting List
> December 12, 2007
>
> Gerard -
> It doesn't matter what Jake's opinion is about SignWriting!
> Obviously, if he has never heard of it, or does not know it, then his
> opinion can only be that of a person who does not know it yet...but
> when he learns SignWriting later...then his opinion will have
> importance...
>
> I have never met Jake, but I look forward to meeting him soon!
>
> My question is to the ASL users...if the course Jake teaches is good
> ASL, and is a helpful course to people without SignWriting, then it
> will be a wonderful tool for us to write it in SignWriting, which
> will then be an added help to Jake's students...
>
> People in the Sign Language worlds do not realize there is a way to
> write their language yet, and this would be a good way to collaborate
> with Jake, with his permission of course, to spread the idea that
> there is a way to write the language now...
>
> But first I want the opinion of the ASL signwriters as to whether
> this course would be a good one to work with...
>
> There are several courses in ASL that only use video, and we could
> contact any one f them and ask permission to write those courses in
> SignWriting, giving an added support for ASL students...
>
> So I am just curious about opinions on the ASL course and should we
> contact Jake about adding some SignWriting?
>
> All people, when they first hear about SignWriting, are surprised,
> but once they learn it I have never met a person who is against
> it...the only people who are against it, are those who do not know 
> it...
>
> Val ;-)
>
> ----------
>
>
>
> On Dec 12, 2007, at 11:00 AM, GerardM wrote:
>
> > Hoi,
> > They advertise that they do not have weird and wonderful
> > drawings ... and that you as a student do not need them :) Now
> > obviously, SignWriting is writing ASL but I am sure that Jake does
> > not know about SignWriting and if he does I am interested in his
> > opinion about SignWriting ... :)
> > Thanks,
> > Gerard
> >
> > On Dec 12, 2007 7:38 PM, Valerie Sutton wrote:
> > SignWriting List
> > December 12, 2007
> >
> > I am curious what all of you think of this new ASL course, that
> > started advertizing through Google ads on our SignWriting home 
> page...
> >
> > http://www.rocketlanguages.com/sign-language/premium/ 
> specialoffer.php
> >
> > Have you ever seen this new course?
> >
> > We could write to them to ask permission to write it in SignWriting.
> >
> > Do you think that would be a good idea?
> >
> > Val ;-)
> >
> >
> >
> > ____________________________________________
> >
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> ----- Message from Adam Frost on Wed, 12 Dec 
> 2007 19:11:29 +0000 -----
> To:
> "SW List" 
> Subject:
> Re: [sw-l] Curious for your opinion...
>
> I was just looking at the address. I live right by where they are 
> based. Might be something to look into. ;)
>
> Adam
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: "Valerie Sutton" 
>
> Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2007 10:38:42
> To:"SignWriting List" 
> Subject: [sw-l] Curious for your opinion...
>
>
> SignWriting List
> December 12, 2007
>
> I am curious what all of you think of this new ASL course, that
> started advertizing through Google ads on our SignWriting home page...
>
> http://www.rocketlanguages.com/sign-language/premium/specialoffer.php
>
> Have you ever seen this new course?
>
> We could write to them to ask permission to write it in SignWriting.
>
> Do you think that would be a good idea?
>
> Val ;-)
>
>
>
> ____________________________________________
>
> SW-L SignWriting List
>
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> ----- Message from Adam Frost on Wed, 12 Dec 
> 2007 19:15:25 +0000 -----
> To:
> "SW List" 
> Subject:
> Re: [sw-l] Curious for your opinion...
>
> I haven't had a chance to look at the videos because I am at work 
> at the moment.
>
> Adam
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: "Valerie Sutton" 
>
> Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2007 11:10:47
> To:"SignWriting List" 
> Subject: Re: [sw-l] Curious for your opinion...
>
>
> SignWriting List
> December 12, 2007
>
> Gerard -
> It doesn't matter what Jake's opinion is about SignWriting!
> Obviously, if he has never heard of it, or does not know it, then his
> opinion can only be that of a person who does not know it yet...but
> when he learns SignWriting later...then his opinion will have
> importance...
>
> I have never met Jake, but I look forward to meeting him soon!
>
> My question is to the ASL users...if the course Jake teaches is good
> ASL, and is a helpful course to people without SignWriting, then it
> will be a wonderful tool for us to write it in SignWriting, which
> will then be an added help to Jake's students...
>
> People in the Sign Language worlds do not realize there is a way to
> write their language yet, and this would be a good way to collaborate
> with Jake, with his permission of course, to spread the idea that
> there is a way to write the language now...
>
> But first I want the opinion of the ASL signwriters as to whether
> this course would be a good one to work with...
>
> There are several courses in ASL that only use video, and we could
> contact any one f them and ask permission to write those courses in
> SignWriting, giving an added support for ASL students...
>
> So I am just curious about opinions on the ASL course and should we
> contact Jake about adding some SignWriting?
>
> All people, when they first hear about SignWriting, are surprised,
> but once they learn it I have never met a person who is against
> it...the only people who are against it, are those who do not know 
> it...
>
> Val ;-)
>
> ----------
>
>
>
> On Dec 12, 2007, at 11:00 AM, GerardM wrote:
>
> > Hoi,
> > They advertise that they do not have weird and wonderful
> > drawings ... and that you as a student do not need them :) Now
> > obviously, SignWriting is writing ASL but I am sure that Jake does
> > not know about SignWriting and if he does I am interested in his
> > opinion about SignWriting ... :)
> > Thanks,
> > Gerard
> >
> > On Dec 12, 2007 7:38 PM, Valerie Sutton wrote:
> > SignWriting List
> > December 12, 2007
> >
> > I am curious what all of you think of this new ASL course, that
> > started advertizing through Google ads on our SignWriting home 
> page...
> >
> > http://www.rocketlanguages.com/sign-language/premium/ 
> specialoffer.php
> >
> > Have you ever seen this new course?
> >
> > We could write to them to ask permission to write it in SignWriting.
> >
> > Do you think that would be a good idea?
> >
> > Val ;-)
> >
> >
> >
> > ____________________________________________
> >
> > SW-L SignWriting List
> >
> > Post Message
> > SW-L at majordomo.valenciacc.edu
> >
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> >
> >
> >
> >
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