SW Handwriting Course Lesson 1 Posted!

Jonathan duncanjonathan at YAHOO.CA
Wed Jan 17 02:57:16 UTC 2007


Val,
    You are right.  I was confusing what was on the web before
"SignWriting by Hand" and this course: "SignWriting HandWriting".  Thank
you for pointing that out.

Jonathan

Valerie Sutton wrote:
> Jonathan -
> You are mixing the Handprinting with the Handwriting...two different
> ways of writing...so that is part of the problem you are having...we
> can talk more about that later...Val ;-)
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> On Jan 14, 2007, at 5:05 PM, Jonathan wrote:
>
>> I did my homework before Val cleared up the topless issue the what
>> was confusing some of the participants.  I wasn't confused but I
>> didn't do it the way Val expected me too either.  For the horizontal
>> flat hand I put a line through the symbol to show that it was
>> horizontal.   I did it this way because this is how I had seen it on
>> the website about handwriting (not this course)  I left the fist with
>> the index finger topless because I figured that if the fist was
>> topless the fist with index should also be topless.  I didn't find it
>> confusing, it just made sense to me at the time.  In retrospect I
>> would've made the horizontal flat hand topless too.  That way I would
>> of had everything topless.  I think it is confusing having some
>> horizontal symbols topless and others not.  I guess I could put an
>> extra line through all the symbols but that is two lines longer to
>> write that the topless method.  It would be nice to have some kind of
>> a standard.  If we do things one way for one symbol and another for
>> the same position on another symbol, it will get quite confusing. 
>> But one thing I was wondering, is it possible for all hand shapes to
>> be drawn topless???????? If not then we aren't any closer to having a
>> standard for handwriting horizontal symbols.
>>     I also share Stuart's point of view about the gap not always
>> being noticeable.  In fact, when I was trying to show Allan to draw
>> the horizontal handwriting index finger that Val had written and
>> scanned from the fixed up web page which I had printed out, he drew
>> it without a gap.  I told him, "Your's isn't the same as the one on
>> the page".   He looked at what he wrote and at the printed page and
>> claimed that they were the same.  I told him to look again.  He
>> couldn't figure out what I thought he was doing wrong.  Then he
>> looked at it really closely and realized that there was a gap there
>> and fixed his lesson.
>>
>> Jonathan
>>
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>> Stuart Thiessen wrote:
>>> I am wondering though if there would be a way to distinguish the
>>> floor handshapes without the finger gap (at least where it is
>>> individual fingers. In printing, I don't have a problem with the gap
>>> because the computer takes care of writing the symbol. But, I think
>>> that it is easier to miswrite the finger gap when handwriting. Just
>>> thinking about when we are doing quick writing or notes in a class.
>>> it seems to me that we would want to have the symbol be
>>> distinguishable enough that we don't have to worry about the finger
>>> accidentally looking connected or something. Just a thought.
>>>
>>> Stuart
>>>
>>> On Jan 8, 2007, at 22:22, Valerie Sutton wrote:
>>>
>>>> SignWriting List
>>>> January 8, 2007
>>>>
>>>> Stuart Thiessen wrote:
>>>>> I worked on it as well during my lunch hour today. I did have one
>>>>> question on page 5 of the PDF, and the second sign down. For the
>>>>> index handshape there, I don't recall seeing that in your list of
>>>>> handwriting shapes that you taught in this lesson. I wondered if
>>>>> we should substitute a different sign or if you planned to show
>>>>> that one but forgot. (I understand how that can happen.)
>>>>
>>>> Hello Stuart!
>>>> Thanks for this feedback. You are right. It should have been there
>>>> in that lesson. I didn't really forget, but because it was so late
>>>> at night, and I was so tired, I thought maybe it would be obvious
>>>> that it was the same as the Printing...so I left it out. Now I see
>>>> it confused lots of people so that was the wrong call...
>>>>
>>>> So I will be posting this shortly...it is not on the web yet... but
>>>> here is an explanation...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> <IndexFinger.png>
>>>>
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