multiple faces, changing eye gaze

[CWren at DOE.K12.GA.US]

[[ Also, in English we use words like "as", "while", "after", etc. to give 
a meaning of time.  These words have no meaning apart from the rest of the 
sentence.  Could signwriting do the same?  Do we have a sign for "as" that 
could be used with the face to indicate that one look, not associated with 
the sign itself is being given during the sign?]]

Sign language uses less 'function words' (as, while, is, on, etc.) and 
SHOWS the functionality in the motion of the sign.  The problem is showing 
three (four!) dimensional information in a two dimensional medium.  During 
the production of the sign (an individual 'word'), I look down, and then 
up.  With the symbols we currently have, that is two different symbols 
that cannot share the same space on a page, (like an eyegaze and a mouth 
movement could.)  The problem is -within the word-  I have to show that 
information.  They are part of this word.  " These words have no meaning 
apart from the rest of the sentence."    They are words in the sentence, 
though, and carry that functionality.  In ASL, they are not (in this case) 
words in a sentence, they are parts of an individual word.  The problem 
is, I have been using multiple facial circles all thru this thing.  I have 
been putting them vertically, showing (in my mind) simultaneity.  Since 
this instance wasn't simultaneous, I went with horizontal, ending up with 
three faces in a triangle.   It looked odd, and made me question it.... 
::grin:: 



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Re: [sw-l] multiple faces, changing eye gaze






In English, we might say "As she was opening the box she turned to the 
audience with an expression that said, "Look!"."   Are we into grammar 
here?  Could a sign conceivably have "grammatical space" where things like 
this could be put?  For instance, could the face be smaller to give it a 
certain meaning?  Also, in English we use words like "as", "while", 
"after", etc. to give a meaning of time.  These words have no meaning 
apart from the rest of the sentence.  Could signwriting do the same?  Do 
we have a sign for "as" that could be used with the face to indicate that 
one look, not associated with the sign itself is being given during the 
sign?  Could we even give meaning to the expression so that we could put 
the face apart from the rest of the sign, perhaps a bit smaller with the 
sign for "look!" in parenthesis next to the face?

Bill


Valerie Sutton wrote: 
I believe I found the sign on the video that coordinates with this 
writing...It is attached. 

I believe you are trying to show, with the double eye-gaze, that you first 
look down at your hands down-diagonal, and then turn to look at the 
audience and that is the eyegaze forward? And the question is...what about 
the timing of those head movements and eyegaze, since one happens after 
the other? I need time to think about this one ;-)) 

Any ideas anyone? Val ;-) 








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