AW: AW: [sw-l] Sign Names in SignWriting ;-)
K.J. Boal
kjoanne403 at HOTMAIL.COM
Wed May 2 01:03:43 UTC 2007
Thanks Charles! I can understand Stefan's confusion; it took me a while to
decide where to put the movement symbol. I first had it slightly above and
to the right of the handshape, and that was okay but I wanted it closer to
the contact symbol... so I ended up with what you see.
KJ
>From: "Charles Butler" <chazzer3332000 at YAHOO.COM>
>Reply-To: sw-l at majordomo.valenciacc.edu
>To: sw-l at majordomo.valenciacc.edu
>Subject: Re: AW: AW: [sw-l] Sign Names in SignWriting ;-)
>Date: Tue, 1 May 2007 05:48:14 -0700 (PDT)
>
>I find this easy to read, the brush contact is the equivalent of a contact
>star, and the movement is placed for reading convenience below the arm
>line. That's how I would write an ASL "J" that brushed the arm, else the
>movement would put the handshape too far visually from the arm.
>
>Stefan Wöhrmann <stefanwoehrmann at GEBAERDENSCHRIFT.DE> wrote: v\:*
>{behavior:url(#default#VML);} o\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);} w\:*
>{behavior:url(#default#VML);} .shape {behavior:url(#default#VML);}
>st1\:*{behavior:url(#default#ieooui) } Hi Kelly,
>
> well - can you describe how to sign your signname?
>
>
>
> For some reason I do not know.
>
> First part no problem K-hand touches left lower arm ...
>
> your rotation arrow describes a movement of the right thumb, right lower
>arm above or below the I-hand ? Now brush contact of the little finger –
>lower arm above the hand ? hm --
>
>
> Stefan ;-)
>
>
> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> Von: owner-sw-l at majordomo.valenciacc.edu
>[mailto:owner-sw-l at majordomo.valenciacc.edu] Im Auftrag von K.J. Boal
> Gesendet: Dienstag, 1. Mai 2007 03:20
> An: sw-l at majordomo.valenciacc.edu
> Betreff: RE: AW: [sw-l] Sign Names in SignWriting ;-)
>
> Mine looks right!
> KJ
>
>
> >From: "Stefan Wöhrmann"<stefanwoehrmann at GEBAERDENSCHRIFT.DE>
> >Reply-To: sw-l at majordomo.valenciacc.edu
> >To: sw-l at majordomo.valenciacc.edu
> >Subject: AW: [sw-l] Sign Names in SignWriting ;-)
> >Date: Tue, 1 May 2007 00:19:09 +0200
> >
> >OK - attached you find the first snapshot of a table showing only the
>names
> >of the participants and their signnames - the way I understood them, or
>got
> >them ... ?
> >
> >If everything is ok - if there is no spelling problem I will go forward
>to
> >create a set of TT-Font symbols of these
> >
> >Next message will show the second part of the group
> >
> >(according the rule - one attachment with one message)
> >
> >Stefan ;-)
> >
> >-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> >Von: owner-sw-l at majordomo.valenciacc.edu
> >[mailto:owner-sw-l at majordomo.valenciacc.edu] Im Auftrag von Valerie
>Sutton
> >Gesendet: Montag, 30. April 2007 23:41
> >An: sw-l at majordomo.valenciacc.edu
> >Betreff: [sw-l] Sign Names in SignWriting ;-)
> >
> >SignWriting List
> >April 30, 2007
> >
> >Stefan -
> >Can you show us the sign names that you do have written already, and
> >post them to the List? Then we all can have fun looking at them and
> >checking them ;-)
> >
> >So go right ahead and post them to the List and then we can discuss
> >reading everyone's names together to see if we understand the
> >SignWriting...
> >
> >Thanks for doing this, Stefan...
> >
> >Val ;-)
> >
> >----------
> >
> >
> >On Apr 30, 2007, at 1:45 PM, Stefan Wöhrmann wrote:
> >
> > > Hello Jonathan,
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > thanks for your kind words ...
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > well I finished a great table of all the people who showed interest
> > > in the handwriting course. – smile –
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > What is missing that we started to write our signnames by hand. My
> > > idea has been to offer to you a TT Font showing your handwriting
> > > and the computerprogram – spelling as you can get with SignPuddle –
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Unfortunately we did never come so far to discuss our handwriting
> > > of our signnames. Since it takes me quite a time to create the TT-
> > > Font I really would prefer to do this job on a basis that the
> > > spelling of the signnames are checked by Valerie –
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > What do you think ?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Nice to read that you are still interested in this job which
> > > already took quite a portion of time and concentration – smile
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > All the best
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Stefan ;-)
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Von: owner-sw-l at majordomo.valenciacc.edu [mailto:owner-sw-
> > > l at majordomo.valenciacc.edu] Im Auftrag von Jonathan
> > > Gesendet: Montag, 30. April 2007 21:07
> > > An: sw-l at majordomo.valenciacc.edu
> > > Betreff: [sw-l] Welcome back Stefan
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Welcome back Stefan!!!
> > >
> > > P.S. Did you finish the Sign names fonts you were working on? Or
> > > did that get put on the back burner now that we aren't currently
> > > any lessons on the list?
> > >
> > > Jonathan
> > >
> > > Stefan Wöhrmann wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi Valerie, Cherie and listmembers –
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > well I am back online – smile –
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > You folks have been so incredible active! Too many messages – so
> > > that I will need some time to catch up with what is discussed ...
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Looking at your video Cherie – I would write it this way
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > <image001.jpg>
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > All the best
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Stefan
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Von: owner-sw-l at majordomo.valenciacc.edu [mailto:owner-sw-
> > > l at majordomo.valenciacc.edu] Im Auftrag von Cherie Wren
> > > Gesendet: Samstag, 28. April 2007 16:52
> > > An: sw-l at majordomo.valenciacc.edu
> > > Betreff: Re: [sw-l] Shurley 4
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > I always have troubles with the rotations... that is my signing,
> > > not a transcription. The two 'baby x's facing each other, then the
> > > right hand twists down twice and the left hand twists up twice
> > > while the palms continue to face each other-- best way I can
> > > describe it in words. Here is a clip.
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message ----
> > > From: "adam at frostvillage.com" <adam at frostvillage.com>
> > > To: sw-l at majordomo.valenciacc.edu
> > > Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2007 1:05:09 AM
> > > Subject: RE: [sw-l] Shurley 4
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Cherie,
> > >
> > > I was just reading your jingle. Very interesting. :-) Very well
> > > written too. They only sign that I had a problem with was (I am
> > > guessing) modify. The way that it was written is the same movement
> > > that would be for a vertical "dead" or "opening the right door
> > > while closing the left door." I took me a few tries of signing it
> > > to see what you were saying. I think that the movement for modify
> > > (at least the way I sign it) is the same as signing class except
> > > the left hand goes the opposite way. I don't know if I am right in
> > > my movement writing, but I was thinking that the movement was
> > > better written this way. But if you are transcribing and the person
> > > signed it the way I mentioned before, then keep it. :-)
> > >
> > > Adam
> > >
> > > PS I'll try to get a clip of my signing the two movements as a
> > > picture is worth a thousand words.
> > >
> > > Load message into SignText
> > >
> > > Courtesy of SignBank.org
> > >
> > > 337e55242c3367ad66f00b5c9bd745bb = 337e55242c3367ad66f00b5c9bd745bb
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Ahhh...imagining that irresistible "new car" smell?
> > > Check out new cars at Yahoo! Autos.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > >
> > > Jonathan & Yolaine Duncan
> > > 8-) & ;-)
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >Val ;-)
> >
> >
> >Valerie Sutton
> >Sutton at SignWriting.org
> >
> >1. SignWriting
> >Read & Write Sign Languages
> >http://www.SignWriting.org
> >
> >2. SignBank
> >Create Sign Language Databases
> >http://www.SignBank.org
> >
> >3. SignPuddle
> >Online Sign Language Community
> >http://www.SignBank.org/signpuddle
> >
> >4. SignWriting List
> >Technical Support: Ask questions to the List
> >http://www.SignWriting.org/forums/swlist
> >
> >5. DanceWriting
> >Read & Write Dance Movement
> >http://www.DanceWriting.org
> >
> >6. MovementWriting
> >Read & Write All Body Movement
> >http://www.MovementWriting.org
> >
> >7. SymbolBank
> >International Movement Writing Alphabet
> >http://www.MovementWriting.org/symbolbank
> >
> >8. Non-profit Organization
> >Center for Sutton Movement Writing
> >http://www.SignWriting.org/forums/sponsors
> >
> >SignWriting Literature Project
> >The DAC, Deaf Action Committee
> >Center For Sutton Movement Writing
> >an educational nonprofit organization
> >P.O. Box 517, La Jolla, CA, 92038, USA
> >tel 858-456-0098 fax 858-456-0020
> >D-Link Videophone: 66.27.57.178
> >Skype Name: valeriesutton
> >
> >
> >
>
>
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