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Mon Dec 8 16:35:49 UTC 2008
December 8, 2008
Hello Andre -
In a SignWriting curriculum, for children, I would put learning SW
Handwriting in the third year...
Just as it explains on these web pages:
In any written form, writing in a "faster cursive style" takes skill.
Plus SignWriting does not have the documentation ready for teaching
formal SW Handwriting...
Therefore, when we were young children learning to write English
characters, we did not start by learning English cursive-
handwriting...we started with hand-printing each English character
carefully, writing them in rows and rows until we became skilled...
Then, after learning how to write in this perfect hand-printing style,
after around the second grade...for me it was in the third grade...I
started to learn to write real handwriting in school (for
English)...so based on that experience, I suggest that SW handprinting
should be taught the first two years of a SignWriting curriculum, and
the SW handwriting starts around the third year in school...
Stefan has some experience with this...His student, Eduard, who is
writing in the picture on the front page of our web site, is a skilled
SignWriting student, having been in Stefan's classroom for several
years...so he started the handwriting later, after getting familiar
with SW in general...
So that is my advice...Your students and teachers are beginners or at
least, in their first year of learning and using SW, so maybe the
handwriting should wait until next year?
But they could try some of these Handprinting techniques right now:
On Dec 8, 2008, at 8:05 AM, Gagnon et Thibeault wrote:
> Hi Val, Anne-Claude and everyone,
> Anny, I don't ask that you translate a SW handwriting's web
> pages. You translate only two words : handprinting and handwriting.
> I mean that I need only a section "Quick dailly writing". I
> am writing a LSQ curriculum for a SW writing. I understand that you
> need to write new books. No problem. I am trying better to
> describe a SW handwriting (quick daily writing).
> I believe that Deaf students write a SW handprinting because
> teachers don't know about SW handwriting norms (Quick daily writing).
> Hand waving
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Valerie Sutton
> To: SignWriting List
> Cc: Gagnon et Thibeault
> Sent: Monday, December 08, 2008 10:12 AM
> Subject: Re: [sw-l] Handwriting
> SignWriting List
> December 8, 2008
> Hello Andre and Anny -
> There is no document to translate...smile...but there are web pages.
> If you follow all the links on this web page:
> SignWriting Handwriting
> There are six sections and each section has several web pages...I do
> not know if Andre really needs a translation of those web pages into
> I have nothing else to give you right now, Andre...More books on
> Handwriting will have to wait for awhile, since I am so behind on
> other books that need to be updated...
> Have you seen the front page of our web site? Stefan's Deaf student
> Eduard is quite an artist with SW calligraphy, don't you think?
> SignWriting HomePage
> Stefan will be sending us more photos of the finished art later...i
> look forward to seeing them!
> And I believe that Kim from Boston has also done some SW
> Kim's work
> Val ;-)
> On Dec 8, 2008, at 6:55 AM, Anne-Claude Prélaz Girod wrote:
>> what kind of document do you need to get translated from english
>> into french ?!?!?!
>> let me know
>> Le 8 déc. 08 à 15:43, Gagnon et Thibeault a écrit :
>>> Hi Anne-Claude, Val and everyone,
>>> Anny, I would like you to translate a handprinting and a
>>> handwriting from English to French?
>>> Val, I am writing a LSQ curriculum from grade 7th to 8th
>>> including SW reading and SW writing now. But, I don't know about
>>> handwriting norms. I would like you to explain me
>>> handwriting norms in general. You remember that you gave a
>>> handwriting course to some participants one year ago. I love
>>> learning it. I don't mean that participants do their homework
>>> but they read only instructions. Would you give us general
>>> explanations or instructions of handwriting norms which help me
>>> write and explain a LSQ curriculum including SW writing ? You
>>> don't need an explanation of the handprinting.
>>> Best regards,
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