printed form and signwritten form

Tue Dec 16 02:54:28 UTC 2008

Hi Val, Adam, Anny and everyone,

    Yes yes yes

    Adam. many thanks.

    Anny,  I hope this helps

    Hand waving

    André
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Adam Frost 
  To: SignWriting List 
  Sent: Monday, December 15, 2008 9:42 PM
  Subject: Re: [sw-l] printed form and signwritten form

  Here it is. :-)

  http://www.signwriting.org/lessons/cursive/handwriting/signs.html

  Adam

  On Dec 15, 2008, at 6:32 PM, Gagnon et Thibeault wrote:

    Hi Val and everyone,

        No,  I will try to look for finding a chart (your name in English, not SW).  If I find it,  I will fax it to you.

        Hand waving

        André
      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: Valerie Sutton 
      To: SignWriting List 
      Cc: Gagnon et Thibeault 
      Sent: Monday, December 15, 2008 9:16 PM
      Subject: Re: [sw-l] printed form and signwritten form

      SignWriting List 
      December 15, 2008

      I found this web page, Andre...is this what you mean?

      http://www.signwriting.org/lessons/cursive/handwriting/lesson101.html

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      On Dec 15, 2008, at 5:53 PM, Gagnon et Thibeault wrote:

        Hi Val and everyone,

            Val,  When I learned a handwriting course, I remember that you compare a chart for your name (Valerie) in English between printing, handprinting and handwriting.  Do you have it?  If yes, this chart helps sw-listers understand them better. 

            Hand waving

            André
          ----- Original Message -----
          From: Valerie Sutton
          To: SignWriting List
          Sent: Monday, December 15, 2008 7:45 PM
          Subject: Re: [sw-l] printed form and signwritten form

          SignWriting List 
          December 15, 2008

          On Dec 14, 2008, at 12:22 PM, Anne-Claude Prélaz Girod wrote:
            I'm not sure to understand what you mean by
            HANDWRITING / HANDPRINTING and the examples I've seen don't really help me to understand clearly what difference ther is between the 2

          Hello Anny -
          I guess I can try to answer your question...

          Handwriting is a term, in English, that has several definitions and meanings...

          One meaning for "handwriting" is cursive writing...meaning writing that "connects letters" in a quick and more relaxed fashion. That kind of handwriting, here in the US, is taught in schools around third grade...and when I moved to Denmark at age 19, I found out that the handwriting taught in Danish schools did not look like the handwriting taught in my school in the US...so cursive writing does vary from place to place, even when they are trying to write the same symbols, such as a or b or c...I could not read handwritten Danish for years because of this education difference...

          But I could read "handprinting" in Denmark...When people took the time to write by hand in very slow and careful perfect letters that looked a lot like type that is printed by machine, then i could read a, b and c and understand the Danish written by hand...so based on that experience, I started using these terms:

          Handprinting....Writing by hand that is as perfect as you can, making symbols as close to the printed machine form as possible...writing block letters...sometimes called block printing...

          Handwriting...the SignWriting equivalent to a more relaxed "cursive" style of writing...

          The problem is that SW Handwriting is not really cursive right now...it might be someday...there was an idea floating around in the late 1980s that maybe our Shorthand stenography system could become the "cursive" form of SW Handwriting, but at the moment SW Handwriting means writing that is not "perfect" but more relaxed...

          Does this help at all? And can anyone explain it better? I bet you can...and please do ;-))

          and I think the idea of using the stenography as a more cursive writing is a great idea, if we can adapt it to fit the  ISWA symbols...

          Val ;-)

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