printed form and signwritten form

Valerie Sutton signwriting at MAC.COM
Tue Dec 16 03:03:26 UTC 2008


Adam and Andre -
Thank you for remembering this page...I had totally forgotten it, and  
the links on our web pages are poor to it...we should do more signs in  
a chart like this...and we need to make the page more obvious to web  
visitors including me ;-))

Anyway, Anny, I hope this chart helps...I guess Andre would like to  
put the words at the top of the chart in French...smile...

Years ago, a linguist told me she uses the Shorthand as a cursive  
writing...maybe that should be explored someday...







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On Dec 15, 2008, at 6:42 PM, Adam Frost wrote:

> Here it is. :-)
>
> http://www.signwriting.org/lessons/cursive/handwriting/signs.html
>
> Adam
> On Dec 15, 2008, at 6:32 PM, Gagnon et Thibeault wrote:
>
>> Hi Val and everyone,
>>
>>     No,  I will try to look for finding a chart (your name in  
>> English, not SW).  If I find it,  I will fax it to you.
>>
>>     Hand waving
>>
>>     André
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Valerie Sutton
>> To: SignWriting List
>> Cc: Gagnon et Thibeault
>> Sent: Monday, December 15, 2008 9:16 PM
>> Subject: Re: [sw-l] printed form and signwritten form
>>
>> SignWriting List
>> December 15, 2008
>>
>> I found this web page, Andre...is this what you mean?
>>
>> http://www.signwriting.org/lessons/cursive/handwriting/lesson101.html
>>
>> <Picture 3.png>
>>
>>
>>
>> ---------
>>
>>
>> On Dec 15, 2008, at 5:53 PM, Gagnon et Thibeault wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Val and everyone,
>>>
>>>     Val,  When I learned a handwriting course, I remember that you  
>>> compare a chart for your name (Valerie) in English between  
>>> printing, handprinting and handwriting.  Do you have it?  If yes,  
>>> this chart helps sw-listers understand them better.
>>>
>>>     Hand waving
>>>
>>>     André
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: Valerie Sutton
>>> To: SignWriting List
>>> Sent: Monday, December 15, 2008 7:45 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [sw-l] printed form and signwritten form
>>>
>>> SignWriting List
>>> December 15, 2008
>>>
>>> On Dec 14, 2008, at 12:22 PM, Anne-Claude Prélaz Girod wrote:
>>>> I'm not sure to understand what you mean by
>>>> HANDWRITING / HANDPRINTING and the examples I've seen don't  
>>>> really help me to understand clearly what difference ther is  
>>>> between the 2
>>>
>>> Hello Anny -
>>> I guess I can try to answer your question...
>>>
>>> Handwriting is a term, in English, that has several definitions  
>>> and meanings...
>>>
>>> One meaning for "handwriting" is cursive writing...meaning writing  
>>> that "connects letters" in a quick and more relaxed fashion. That  
>>> kind of handwriting, here in the US, is taught in schools around  
>>> third grade...and when I moved to Denmark at age 19, I found out  
>>> that the handwriting taught in Danish schools did not look like  
>>> the handwriting taught in my school in the US...so cursive writing  
>>> does vary from place to place, even when they are trying to write  
>>> the same symbols, such as a or b or c...I could not read  
>>> handwritten Danish for years because of this education difference...
>>>
>>> But I could read "handprinting" in Denmark...When people took the  
>>> time to write by hand in very slow and careful perfect letters  
>>> that looked a lot like type that is printed by machine, then i  
>>> could read a, b and c and understand the Danish written by  
>>> hand...so based on that experience, I started using these terms:
>>>
>>> Handprinting....Writing by hand that is as perfect as you can,  
>>> making symbols as close to the printed machine form as  
>>> possible...writing block letters...sometimes called block  
>>> printing...
>>>
>>> Handwriting...the SignWriting equivalent to a more relaxed  
>>> "cursive" style of writing...
>>>
>>> The problem is that SW Handwriting is not really cursive right  
>>> now...it might be someday...there was an idea floating around in  
>>> the late 1980s that maybe our Shorthand stenography system could  
>>> become the "cursive" form of SW Handwriting, but at the moment SW  
>>> Handwriting means writing that is not "perfect" but more relaxed...
>>>
>>> Does this help at all? And can anyone explain it better? I bet you  
>>> can...and please do ;-))
>>>
>>> and I think the idea of using the stenography as a more cursive  
>>> writing is a great idea, if we can adapt it to fit the  ISWA  
>>> symbols...
>>>
>>> Val ;-)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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