A song in South African sign??

Kimberley Shaw skifoot at GMAIL.COM
Tue Mar 4 17:18:53 UTC 2008


Wow. I had no idea, clearly, that so many varieties of Sign are being
used there!
I look forward to learning more from Sebolelo and whatever other
Signwriters have information to contribute.
Charles -- have you ever interpreted this song? Or have only sung it vocally?
My chorus has sung Asikatali as well, but it has not become part of
our standing repertory.
Best,
Kim

On Tue, Mar 4, 2008 at 10:14 AM, Charles Butler
<chazzer3332000 at yahoo.com> wrote:
> This is from the Ethnologue but the information is from 1988.
>
> The North British sign system was used for the deaf in white
> English-speaking families. In 1881 a school for Afrikaans-speaking families
> was begun using British Sign Language. Several dialects are used
> unofficially in different schools. There are 9 sign language systems, 60%
> related to British or Australian sign languages, few to American Sign
> Language.
>
> I think your information on the Durban School is probably more accurate,
> Valerie.
>
>
> Deaf Action Committee for SignWriting <dac at signwriting.org> wrote:
>  SignWriting List
> March 4, 2008
>
> Hello Kim and Charles!
> As always, Kim, you have amazing projects!
>
> It is my general understanding that South Africa has many signed languages.
> When SignWriting was used in Durbin, South Africa, at the Fulton School for
> the Deaf...
>
> SignWriting in South Africa
> http://www.SignWriting.org/africa
>
> ...at that time I was told by the teacher that there were 11 signed
> languages in their school!
>
> Each tribe or area of South Africa has their own distinct languages I
> believe....So it is hard to say "South African Sign Language" would be the
> same as "Zulu Sign Language"...they just might be different languages for
> all we know...
>
> So let's ask one of our List members from South Africa...Sebolelo Nhlapo
> from Pretoria...
>
> Sebolelo...Do you know Zulu Sign Language? Is that the same as South African
> Sign Language?
>
> Val ;-)
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Mar 4, 2008, at 6:39 AM, Charles Butler wrote:
> Wow, that would be a challenge.  I have sung Singabahambo and Asikatale in
> my own choruses.  Seeing it in Zulu sign would be a triumph.
>
> Charles
>
>
> Kimberley Shaw <skifoot at gmail.com> wrote:
>  Hello Signwriters:
> It has been a long while since I've posted to the list! My ASL studies
> continue, although not within a formal interpreter-training program,
> alas. But all the same, I am developing an ASL version of my chorus'
> five standing-repertory songs, with plenty of advice from fluent
> ASL-speaking Deafies in my area. (My hard-of-hearing ears wanna
> vacation from singing!)
> So, here is my query.
> One of these songs, "Singabahambayo", has its first verse sung
> entirely in Zulu before we go into English translation of its first
> and second verses. Are any of you Signwriters able and/or willing to
> transcribe a version of this song's first verse in South African
> Sign?? Does it already have an established Sign form? I have no idea
> how many deaf folk got involved with the South African freedom
> movement ...
> Best,
> Kim from Boston
>
>
>
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