AW: [sw-l] Print SignWriting Greeting Cards

Thu Dec 3 00:20:11 UTC 2009

Hallo Stefan and everyone,

    Who prefers writing horizontally or vertically for a sign name, a full name and a speech?  You will see the attached "horizontal vs vertical.

    Best regards,

    André

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  From: Stefan Wöhrmann 
  To: 'SignWriting List' 
  Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2009 3:59 PM
  Subject: AW: AW: [sw-l] Print SignWriting Greeting Cards

  Hi Ingvild and sw-list friends, 

  Thank you for your message. This can be the beginning of a general discussion about what we are doing if we try to describe the performance of a signer 

  So many aspects involved - what do I see? What makes a difference? Is it necessary to be familiar with the given SL? Can I repeat the performance exactly the same way? How many details are wanted? Spelling standards ... spelling rule violations ... Who is the reader? ... 

  And now - how to express my idea of what is performed in SignWriting?  Writing for the informed reader or for just anybody?  

  In this case - I write just two fingerspelling handshapes almost at the same place performed.    "j " first and "d" afterwards.  

  I admit that I never saw Jonathan performing his name - so I guess it is close to what is supposed to be standard .. J and  D

  Your spelling is a different performance.  

  Of course there are other options to sign this - smile - and I understand the point that this wrist - movement  would lead to some kind of expectation that the next symbol should appear on the left. But this is simply a fingerspelling-sequence coming one after the next. 

  In this case it is the spelling for a sign name -  it is written from left to right  ... I still prefer writing horizontally more, ... if I do not use SignPuddle - Software  - 

  especially if I prepare the documents for my students at school. 

  Stefan ;-)

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  Von: sw-l-bounces at majordomo.valenciacc.edu [mailto:sw-l-bounces at majordomo.valenciacc.edu] Im Auftrag von Ingvild Roald
  Gesendet: Mittwoch, 2. Dezember 2009 18:25
  An: sw-l at majordomo.valenciacc.edu
  Betreff: RE: AW: [sw-l] Print SignWriting Greeting Cards

  I think maybe I would write like this (see attached JD.jpg), from the feeling of the movements

  Ingvild 

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  Date: Wed, 2 Dec 2009 09:06:31 -0800
  From: chazzer3332000 at yahoo.com
  Subject: Re: AW: [sw-l] Print SignWriting Greeting Cards
  To: sw-l at majordomo.valenciacc.edu

  Curious, Ingvild, would you then put the fingerspelled D below the J?  Fingerspelling, at least in ASL has all the letters at the same height, and usually is read left to right, not up and down.  When I was transcribing a video, I did fingerspelling as a stack of letters so that it was clear that it was sequential.  (see ASL Encylopedia).

  Would that be better?

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  From: Ingvild Roald <iroald at hotmail.com>
  To: sw-l at majordomo.valenciacc.edu
  Sent: Wed, December 2, 2009 12:00:35 PM
  Subject: RE: AW: [sw-l] Print SignWriting Greeting Cards

  hm...

  if I did not know the J was supposed to come before the D, the movement would make me think that this was DJ ..

  Ingvild 

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  Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2009 22:35:57 -0600
  From: joyoduncan at gmail.com
  To: sw-l at majordomo.valenciacc.edu
  Subject: Re: AW: [sw-l] Print SignWriting Greeting Cards

  Hi Stefan,
      Getting back to some email I didn't reply to yet. ;-) 
      Yes that is my sign name.   We I guess without the face.  My sign name doesn't have any contacts.  It's just JD.

  Jonathan Duncan

  Stefan Wöhrmann wrote: 

  Good morning , 

  reading your message I tried to remember your name sign. Google showed up with many results . but this one is really interesting -  isn't it? 

  Stefan ;-)

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  Von: sw-l-bounces at majordomo.valenciacc.edu [mailto:sw-l-bounces at majordomo.valenciacc.edu] Im Auftrag von Jonathan y Yolaine
  Gesendet: Samstag, 17. Oktober 2009 02:08
  An: SignWriting List
  Betreff: Re: [sw-l] Print SignWriting Greeting Cards

  Hi Val,
      Nice cards, just wanted to point out that the signwriting for Get Well as a typo has two right hands!! :-) 

  Jonathan
  Valerie Sutton wrote: 

  SignWriting List 

  September 21, 2009

  Print your own Greeting Cards in SignWriting

  Go to:

  SignWriting Cards

  and click on Number 12 on that web page...

  Or download here:

  SignWriting Greeting Cards in ASL

  Document posted on the web

  For printing cards with:

  Avery 3266 Quarter-Fold Greeting Cards

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