AW: [sw-l] Print SignWriting Greeting Cards

Charles Butler chazzer3332000 at YAHOO.COM
Thu Dec 3 03:55:24 UTC 2009


I find the fingerspelling easier to read vertically, and the face shapes horizontally as I can see the sequence, though I would need to learn Gebardeschreft (spelling) to understand when the thumb/index actually hits.

When I wrote a fingerspelling sequence in ASL where the head tilted up to start the name and then nodded down to finish, I found it easier to write the fingerspelling down the page with the facial nod at the beginning and the end.

   




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From: Gagnon et Thibeault <atg at videotron.ca>
To: SignWriting List <sw-l at majordomo.valenciacc.edu>
Sent: Wed, December 2, 2009 7:20:11 PM
Subject: Re: AW: [sw-l] Print SignWriting Greeting Cards

 
Hallo Stefan and 
everyone,
 
    Who 
prefers writing horizontally or vertically for a sign name, a full name and a 
speech?  You will see the attached "horizontal vs 
vertical.
 
    Best 
regards,
 
    
André
    
----- Original Message ----- 
>From: Stefan Wöhrmann 
>To: 'SignWriting List' 
>Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2009 3:59 
>  PM
>Subject: AW: AW: [sw-l] Print SignWriting 
>  Greeting Cards
>
>
>Hi Ingvild 
>  and sw-list friends, 
> 
>Thank you 
>  for your message. This can be the beginning of a general discussion about what 
>  we are doing if we try to describe the performance of a signer 
> 
> 
>So many 
>  aspects involved – what do I see? What makes a difference? Is it necessary to 
>  be familiar with the given SL? Can I repeat the performance exactly the same 
>  way? How many details are wanted? Spelling standards ... spelling rule 
>  violations ... Who is the reader? ... 
> 
>And now – 
>  how to express my idea of what is performed in SignWriting?  Writing for 
>  the informed reader or for just anybody?  
> 
>In this 
>  case – I write just two fingerspelling handshapes almost at the same place 
>  performed.    “j “ first and “d” afterwards. 
>   
>I admit 
>  that I never saw Jonathan performing his name – so I guess it is close to what 
>  is supposed to be standard .. J and  D
> 
>Your 
>  spelling is a different performance.  
> 
>Of course 
>  there are other options to sign this – smile – and I understand the point that 
>  this wrist – movement  would lead to some kind of expectation that the next symbol should appear on the 
>  left. But this is simply a fingerspelling-sequence coming one after the next. 
> 
> 
>In this 
>  case it is the spelling for a sign name -  it is written from left to 
>  right  ... I still prefer writing 
>  horizontally more, ... if I do not use SignPuddle – Software  - 
> 
>especially if I prepare the documents for 
>  my students at school. 
> 
> 
>Stefan ;-)
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>
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>Von:>  sw-l-bounces at majordomo.valenciacc.edu 
>  [mailto:sw-l-bounces at majordomo.valenciacc.edu] Im Auftrag von Ingvild Roald
>Gesendet: Mittwoch, 2. Dezember 2009 
>  18:25
>An: >  sw-l at majordomo.valenciacc.edu
>Betreff: RE: AW: [sw-l] Print SignWriting 
>  Greeting Cards
> 
>I think maybe I would write like 
>  this (see attached JD.jpg), from the feeling of the 
>  movements
>
>
>Ingvild 
>
>
> 
>
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>Date: Wed, 2 Dec 2009 09:06:31 
>  -0800
>From: chazzer3332000 at yahoo.com
>Subject: Re: AW: [sw-l] Print 
>  SignWriting Greeting Cards
>To: 
>  sw-l at majordomo.valenciacc.edu
>Curious, Ingvild, would you then 
>  put the fingerspelled D below the J?  Fingerspelling, at least in ASL has 
>  all the letters at the same height, and usually is read left to right, not up 
>  and down.  When I was transcribing a video, I did fingerspelling as a 
>  stack of letters so that it was clear that it was sequential.  (see ASL 
>  Encylopedia).
> 
>Would that be 
>  better?
> 
> 
>
________________________________
 
>From:Ingvild 
>  Roald <iroald at hotmail.com>
>To: >  sw-l at majordomo.valenciacc.edu
>Sent: Wed, December 2, 2009 12:00:35 
>  PM
>Subject: RE: AW: [sw-l] 
>  Print SignWriting Greeting Cards
>
>hm...
> 
>if I 
>  did not know the J was supposed to come before the D, the movement would make 
>  me think that this was DJ ..
>
>Ingvild 
>
>
> 
>
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>Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2009 22:35:57 -0600
>From: 
>  joyoduncan at gmail.com
>To: sw-l at majordomo.valenciacc.edu
>Subject: Re: AW: 
>  [sw-l] Print SignWriting Greeting Cards
>
>Hi 
>  Stefan,
>    Getting back to some email I didn't reply to 
>  yet. ;-) 
>    Yes 
>  that is my sign name.   We I guess without the face.  My sign 
>  name doesn't have any contacts.  It's just JD.
>
>
>Jonathan 
>  Duncan
>
>Stefan Wöhrmann 
>  wrote: 
>Good 
>  morning , 
> 
> 
>reading 
>  your message I tried to remember your name sign. Google showed up with many 
>  results … but this one is really interesting -  isn’t it? 
> 
> 
>Stefan 
>  ;-)
> 
>
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>Von:sw-l-bounces at majordomo.valenciacc.edu >  [mailto:sw-l-bounces at majordomo.valenciacc.edu] 
> Im Auftrag von Jonathan 
> y Yolaine
>Gesendet: Samstag, 17. Oktober 2009 
>  02:08
>An: > SignWriting List
>Betreff: Re: [sw-l] Print SignWriting 
>  Greeting Cards
> 
>Hi Val,
>    Nice 
>  cards, just wanted to point out that the signwriting for Get Well as a typo 
>  has two right hands!! :-) 
> 
>
>Jonathan
>Valerie 
>  Sutton wrote: 
>SignWriting 
>  List 
>September 21, 
>  2009
> 
>Print your own Greeting Cards in 
>  SignWriting
> 
>Go 
>to:
> 
>SignWriting 
>  Cards
> 
>and click on Number 12 on that web 
>  page...
> 
>Or download 
>  here:
> 
>SignWriting 
>  Greeting Cards in ASL
>Document posted on the 
>  web
>For printing cards 
>  with:
>Avery 3266 Quarter-Fold Greeting 
>  Cards
> 
>  
>  
> 
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