SignWriting Question...from Deaf Church in Michigan

Adam Frost icemandeaf at GMAIL.COM
Fri Jul 3 20:54:25 UTC 2009 

Hmm... I may have ordered the pictures wrong. He signs group in the  
Left lane 3 times moving forward each time. Then does the same for the  
Middle lane and the Right lane each. So he isn't moving back and forth  
between lanes, but forward in each lane. I couldn't get the stills of  
him doing the third times in the Middle and Right lane because he  
wiped through  those two lanes quicker than I could hit pause. ;-)

Adam

On Jul 3, 2009, at 1:47 PM, Valerie Sutton wrote:

> SignWriting List
> July 3, 2009
>
> These are great pictures, Adam! Thanks for doing that. Now we can  
> see that there are three Lanes. Most of the time, a Lane means a  
> weight shift...a little over to the left, puts the sign in the Left  
> Lane, then the weight shifts to the Center Lane and then the weight  
> shifts to the Right Lane, and the sign itself is also performed a  
> little to the Left, then Center, then a little to the Right...
>
> These photos capture the feeling of Lanes very well!
>
> My question...does he do more than one "GROUP" in each Lane? Or does  
> he move back to the Left Lane to do the fourth group a little  
> higher? or the same height as the first time?
>
> Val ;-)
>
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> On Jul 3, 2009, at 1:32 PM, Adam Frost wrote:
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>> It took me some work to get it working. (And to be honest, I really  
>> don't know how I did it. Ha!) The part that is being asked about is  
>> when Jesus commands the multitudes to sit in ranks of fifties and  
>> one hundreds. I would read it as 3 groups in the three lanes as I  
>> had written before. I wish that I could get stills of what I am  
>> seeing, but I haven't figured out how to stop the video at the  
>> right times. Partly because he signs the second and third part  
>> really fast. Here's the stills that I have.
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>> Adam
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>> On Jul 3, 2009, at 12:03 PM, SignWriting wrote:
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>>> Except the question was asked on Skype, without my seeing the  
>>> video...but Ron has just given us the information about finding  
>>> the video, so I went to this location and put in the correct  
>>> verse, but my Mac does not play the video...
>>>
>>>
>>> Go to Deaf Missions site:
>>>
>>> http://deafmissions.com/?PageID=65
>>>
>>> Enter following verse in box:
>>>
>>> Mark 06_30-44
>>>
>>>
>>> it says I do not have the right version of RealPlayer even though  
>>> I have downloaded the latest version, so...this used to happen a  
>>> lot so I purchased the videos of the Bible translation from Deaf  
>>> Missions that they are transcribing from, so now I have the DVD  
>>> but now I have to find that exact sign in the video clip...haven't  
>>> gotten there yet!
>>>
>>> Obviously writing exactly what is on the video is the best way to  
>>> go, but sometimes questions are asked in general...
>>>
>>> Writing multiple times like that sometimes would result in a new  
>>> "combination movement symbol" in the past...for example...rotation  
>>> symbols placed in a "circle design" could become a combo symbol in  
>>> time if it happened a lot, but this is the first time I have had a  
>>> question about doing one sign 6 or 12 times...
>>>
>>> Anyway...if I find the video I will tell you all...
>>>
>>> Val ;-)
>>>
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>>>
>>> On Jul 3, 2009, at 10:00 AM, Cherie Wren wrote:
>>>
>>>> Well, then, the answer becomes simple...  how did they sign it in  
>>>> the video?  Write it that way. ::grin::
>>>>
>>>> cherie
>>>> (not terribly helpful, I realize.)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> From: SignWriting <signwriting at mac.com>
>>>> To: SignWriting List <sw-l at majordomo.valenciacc.edu>
>>>> Sent: Thursday, July 2, 2009 5:25:37 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [sw-l] SignWriting Question...from Deaf Church in  
>>>> Michigan
>>>>
>>>> SignWriting List
>>>> July 2, 2009
>>>>
>>>> On Jul 2, 2009, at 2:11 PM, Cherie Wren wrote:
>>>> > You wouldn't really sign it that way.  If I am signing "we  
>>>> offer 6 classes in various locations all over," I would still  
>>>> only repeat the sign CLASS 3 times, max.  When I get into details  
>>>> about what the 6 locations are, I still wouldn't sign class with  
>>>> 6 repetitions in a row....  Is this an artistic thingie?  Or is  
>>>> there some other weird non-linguistic reason to be signing it  
>>>> that way?
>>>> > Given that there is a reason for doing this (I'll assume... ;-)  
>>>> I would sign the repetitions in an arc, like you show with three  
>>>> reps in one of your attached pics.
>>>> > cherie
>>>>
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>>>>
>>>> Hi Cherie -
>>>> When I was asked the question, that was my immediate  
>>>> reaction..."was this really necessary to really sign six  
>>>> different times or 12 different times?", but they are  
>>>> transcribing the Bible from a video made by Deaf Missions, and I  
>>>> believe they must have signed it that way on the video....so  
>>>> assuming we have to write it 6 or 12 times, the question is, how  
>>>> best to do that?...thanks for your input about the repetitions in  
>>>> an arc...
>>>>
>>>> Val ;-)
>>>>
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