SignPuddle Brackets

Stephen Jones swterp at GMAIL.COM
Thu Jul 23 21:01:27 UTC 2009


I like it as well.

~Stephen

On Thu, Jul 23, 2009 at 3:38 PM, Valerie Sutton <sutton at signwriting.org>wrote:

> Hi Charles!
> That link didn't work for me for some reason...so I went to the
> Encyclopedia
>
> http://www.signbank.org/signpuddle1.5/index.php?ui=1&sgn=21
>
> and I searched for Clerc
>
> http://www.signbank.org/signpuddle1.5/searchword.php?ui=1&sgn=21&sid=26
>
> and I really like the way you wrote that without brackets! very clear...
>
> Val ;-)
>
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> On Jul 23, 2009, at 1:28 PM, Charles Butler wrote:
>
>  You may want to look at what I did in the SW literature section.  In
>> transcribing the LeClerc video, several facial expressions and handshapes
>> carried over whole phrases.  I set them in place and then changed them only
>> in the place they were included in the next sign.  The head nods and changes
>> in face became grammar markers.
>>
>> http://www.signbank.org/signpuddle1.5/latest.php?total=9
>>
>> Charles
>>
>>
>> --- On Thu, 7/23/09, Valerie Sutton <sutton at signwriting.org> wrote:
>>
>> From: Valerie Sutton <sutton at signwriting.org>
>> Subject: Re: [sw-l] SignPuddle Brackets
>> To: "SignWriting List" <sw-l at majordomo.valenciacc.edu>
>> Date: Thursday, July 23, 2009, 12:00 PM
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>> SignWriting List
>> July 23, 2009
>>
>> On Jul 23, 2009, at 8:47 AM, Stephen Jones wrote:
>> > I am currently doing phrases that require facial expression to be
>> attributed to a whole phrase. As I was looking through SignPuddle I could
>> not find the brackets I used to use for that. Are they there and I just
>> missed them or where they removed? Thanks, Stephen Jones
>>
>> Hi Stephen!
>> Thanks for this question. The brackets can definitely be written in the
>> ISWA 2008 symbolset, which is what we are using in SignPuddle Online, but
>> there are no specific symbols for those brackets any longer. I did that very
>> much on purpose, since they are rarely used for everyday writing of
>> SignWriting Literature now...and I know they can be constructed when
>> needed...for linguistic research, and so forth...
>>
>> The brackets were symbols we used in the 1970's in Sutton DanceWriting,
>> and they became an active part of the International Movement Writing
>> Alphabet, for writing sports, dance and all body movement. And they
>> certainly are used for Sign Language Research, to show the fact that one
>> symbol, such as a facial expression, can influence a whole bunch of signs to
>> follow....and I know that some continue to use them to this day...
>>
>> We use them rarely to write ASL Literature and video transcription and
>> storytelling, because we write the same thing in a different way...so there
>> are several ways to write that issue...
>>
>> But...that is neither here nor there...let me show you how I would
>> construct the brackets in the next message...a diagram is coming -
>>
>> Val ;-)
>>
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