Signwriting Documents - another program?
Jonathan
duncanjonathan at YAHOO.CA
Mon Mar 16 13:36:49 UTC 2009
Bill Reese wrote:
> Jonathon,
>
> By your list, you look close to a beta. Completion of the two items
> you mentioned that need work or you're working on, the implementation
> of the arrow symbol chooser in SWEditor, and a rudimentary Help file
> for those testing would seem to put you there. Some of your "not yet
> implemented" items look optional that can be added during the beta.
Thanks for the encouragement, I guess if I did that I could get a Beta
much sooner. Some of the functions work but are a little buggy. For
example I can choose several symbols at once to move them around or
deselect one but sometimes it doesn't deselect the one it's supposed
to. I was thinking that I should fix all of the bugs I know of before I
release a Beta. What do you think?
>
> I use Kubuntu, which is Ubuntu with the KDE desktop, whereas Ubuntu
> uses Gnome. Gnome is smaller than KDE and works faster on older
> computers. The KDE desktop is more Windows-like which appeals to
> those moving over from Windows. Ubuntu and Kubuntu have been the most
> popular Linux distros for 3 years now and they both regularly update
> every 6 months.
I had a quick look at some article about the two. Do you ever run into
cases where a program will only run on Gnome but not KDE or vice versa?
Jonathan
>
> Bill
>
>
> Jonathan y Yolaine wrote:
>> Bill,
>> I was hoping to release a beta, but I might just go ahead and
>> release an alpha so I can get more feed back earlier on in the
>> development progress. Right now it won't run on Linux. I am still
>> thinking of releasing it for Linux, but it depends how complex it
>> becomes to port it to Linux. I have noticed that the Mono project to
>> port Windows .NET programs to Linux is maturing well.
>> Which flavor of Linux do you use/recommend?
>>
>> Jonathan
>>
>> Bill Reese wrote:
>>> Jonathan,
>>>
>>> You're program list is very impressive. I'd like to test it once
>>> you get it to a point where you can release an alpha or beta. Will
>>> it be able to work on different platforms like Linux?
>>>
>>> Bill
>>>
>>>
>>> Jonathan wrote:
>>>> Hi Maria,
>>>> My program called "The SignWriter Studio" has many features,
>>>> one of them being SignWriting Documents. It has been a big
>>>> project. Some of it´s goals have been faster sign input, keyboard
>>>> input, standalone program not needing internet, multi-spoken
>>>> language to signlanguage, sign lists to helps students learn new signs.
>>>> I am still working on the printing routines but the goal is
>>>> that the columns flow into the space available. So it can do any
>>>> size page. I have it working were it will accommodate and re flow
>>>> to the window size.
>>>>
>>>> Here is an update of the progress of my program.
>>>>
>>>> Jonathan
>>>>
>>>> *Main Feature* *Feature* *Status* *Comment*
>>>> *GlosstoSign*
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *
>>>> * Gloss to Sign Working
>>>> *
>>>> * Phrase to Sign In Future version Match a phrase or consecutive
>>>> words with a sign
>>>> *
>>>> * Pass to Document Working
>>>> *
>>>> * Insert Gloss Working
>>>> *
>>>> * Remove Gloss Working
>>>> *
>>>> * Change Gloss Working
>>>> *
>>>> * Keyboard Shortcuts Not yet implemented
>>>> *
>>>> * Help Not yet implemented
>>>> *
>>>> * Globalized Not yet implemented
>>>> *ImageEditor*
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *
>>>> * Crop Working
>>>> *
>>>> * Convert to Black and White Working
>>>> *
>>>> * Open/Save Image File Working
>>>> *
>>>> * Eraser Working
>>>> *
>>>> * Resize Working
>>>> *
>>>> * Contrast In Future version
>>>> *
>>>> * Brightness In Future version
>>>> *
>>>> * Undo/Redo Working
>>>> *
>>>> * Keyboard Shortcuts Not yet implemented
>>>> *
>>>> * Help Not yet implemented
>>>> *
>>>> * Globalized Not yet implemented
>>>> *Import Export*
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *
>>>> * Import SBML Working
>>>> *
>>>> * Export SBML Working
>>>> *
>>>> * Import SignText URL Working
>>>> *
>>>> * Export SignText URL Working
>>>> *
>>>> * Import from another copy TheSignWriterStudio Not yet implemented
>>>> *
>>>> * Choose Gloss Language Working
>>>> *
>>>> * Choose Dictionary Sign Language Working
>>>> *
>>>> * Keyboard Shortcuts Not yet implemented
>>>> *
>>>> * Help Not yet implemented
>>>> *
>>>> * Globalized Not yet implemented
>>>> *Options*
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *
>>>> * Choose User Interface Language Working
>>>> *
>>>> * Choose User Interface Sign Language Working
>>>> *
>>>> * Choose First Gloss Language Working
>>>> *
>>>> * Choose Second Gloss Language Working
>>>> *
>>>> * Choose Dictionary Sign Language Working
>>>> *
>>>> * Keyboard Shortcuts Not yet implemented
>>>> *
>>>> * Help Not yet implemented
>>>> *
>>>> * Globalized Not yet implemented
>>>> *SignList*
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *
>>>> * Add/Rename/Choose/Delete SignList Working
>>>> *
>>>> * Add/Rename/Choose/Order/Delete SignList Sub Titles Working
>>>> *
>>>> * Add/Choose/Delete SignList Sub Title Signs from Dictionary
>>>> Working
>>>> *
>>>> * Display Sign Working
>>>> *
>>>> * Mark Signs not in any previous Sub Title Working
>>>> *
>>>> * Print List Working
>>>> *
>>>> * Print Preview Working
>>>> *
>>>> * Export to Image File for Slide Show Not yet implemented
>>>> *
>>>> * Keyboard Shortcuts Not yet implemented
>>>> *
>>>> * Help Not yet implemented
>>>> *
>>>> * Globalized Not yet implemented
>>>> *SWDictionary*
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *
>>>> * Search Bilingual Gloss Working
>>>> *
>>>> * Search Unilingual Gloss Working
>>>> *
>>>> * Add New Sign Working
>>>> *
>>>> * Duplicate Sign Working
>>>> *
>>>> * Edit SignWriting in SWEditor Working
>>>> *
>>>> * Edit Image in ImageEditor Working
>>>> *
>>>> * Import Working
>>>> *
>>>> * Export Working
>>>> *
>>>> * Copy/Paste SignWriting Working
>>>> *
>>>> * Copy/Paste Picture of Sign Working
>>>> *
>>>> * Copy/Paste Photo Working
>>>> *
>>>> * SignLanguage to SignLanguage In Future version
>>>> *
>>>> * Synonyms In Future version
>>>> *
>>>> * Antonyms In Future version
>>>> *
>>>> * Sign one must not confuse with In Future version
>>>> *
>>>> * Sign Definition In Future version
>>>> *
>>>> * Sign Example In Future version
>>>> *
>>>> * Sign Parts-of-Speech In Future version
>>>> *
>>>> * Sign Mnemonic In Future version
>>>> *
>>>> * Keyboard Shortcuts Not yet implemented
>>>> *
>>>> * Help Not yet implemented
>>>> *
>>>> * Globalized Not yet implemented
>>>> *SWDocument*
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *
>>>> * Add/Edit SignWriting in SWEditor Working
>>>> *
>>>> * Add Sign from Dictionary Working
>>>> *
>>>> * Add/Edit Image in ImageEditor Working
>>>> *
>>>> * Add Image from File Working
>>>> *
>>>> * Remove Sign/Image Working
>>>> *
>>>> * Move Sign/Image Working
>>>> *
>>>> * Copy Sign to Clipboard Working
>>>> *
>>>> * Sign Move Drag and Drop Working
>>>> *
>>>> * Switch Sign Lanes Working
>>>> *
>>>> * Set Sign Bottom Margin Working
>>>> *
>>>> * Edit Gloss Working
>>>> *
>>>> * Copy Image to Clipboard Working
>>>> *
>>>> * Save Sign back to Dictionary Working
>>>> *
>>>> * Symbol and Sign Gloss tool tip Working
>>>> *
>>>> * Save/Load Document Working
>>>> *
>>>> * Import Working
>>>> *
>>>> * Export Working
>>>> *
>>>> * Print Needs work
>>>>
>>>> *
>>>> * Print Preview Working
>>>> *
>>>> * Page Setup Working
>>>> *
>>>> * Show/Hide glosses Working
>>>> *
>>>> * Start new column Working
>>>> *
>>>> * Keyboard Shortcuts Not yet implemented
>>>> *
>>>> * Help Not yet implemented
>>>> *
>>>> * Globalized Not yet implemented
>>>> *SWEditor*
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *
>>>> * Spread Symbols In Future version
>>>> *
>>>> * Setup Offsets for all heads In Future version
>>>> *
>>>> * Torso Symbol Chooser In Future version
>>>> *
>>>> * EyeGaze Symbol Chooser In Future version
>>>> *
>>>> * Favority Sign Parts In Future version
>>>> *
>>>> * Listing of all Symbol Groups Needs Work
>>>> *
>>>> * Globalized Not yet implemented
>>>> *
>>>> * Arrow Symbol Chooser Not yet implemented
>>>> *
>>>> * Help Not yet implemented
>>>> *
>>>> * Change Symbol Color Working
>>>> *
>>>> * Copy/Paste SignWriting Working
>>>> *
>>>> * Add/Change Frames Working
>>>> *
>>>> * Change Background Color Working
>>>> *
>>>> * Copy Image of Sign Working
>>>> *
>>>> * Undo/Redo Working
>>>> *
>>>> * Hand Shape Search Working
>>>> *
>>>> * Add/Remove/Choose Favorite Symbol Working
>>>> *
>>>> * Mouseless Writing Working
>>>> *
>>>> * Keyboard Shortcuts Working
>>>> *
>>>> * Hand Symbol Chooser Working
>>>> *
>>>> * Hand Shape Rotation/Fill Chooser Working
>>>> *
>>>> * Add/Remove/Order Sequence Working
>>>> *
>>>> * General Symbol Chooser Working
>>>> *
>>>> * Overlap Symbols Working
>>>> *
>>>> * Symbol Drag and Drop Working
>>>> *
>>>> * Duplicate Symbols Working
>>>> *
>>>> * Change Symbol size Working
>>>> *
>>>> * Multiple Symbol Selection Working
>>>> *
>>>> * Move Symbol Above/Below Working
>>>> *SWSearch*
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *
>>>> * Exact Match Working
>>>> *
>>>> * Group Match Not yet implemented
>>>> *
>>>> * Fill Match Not yet implemented
>>>> *
>>>> * Rotation Match Not yet implemented
>>>> *
>>>> * Any Match Not yet implemented
>>>> *
>>>> * Synonym Symbol in other plane Working
>>>> *
>>>> * Sign Similarity In Future version
>>>> *
>>>> * Keyboard Shortcuts Working
>>>> *
>>>> * Help Not yet implemented
>>>> *
>>>> * Globalized Not yet implemented
>>>> *SWQuizes*
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *
>>>> * Multiple Choice SignWriting Not yet implemented
>>>> *
>>>> * Multiple Choice Gloss Not yet implemented
>>>> *
>>>> * Keyboard Shortcuts Not yet implemented
>>>> *
>>>> * Help Not yet implemented
>>>> *
>>>> * Globalized Not yet implemented
>>>> *SWAnimation*
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *
>>>> * SignWriting to Animation Files In Future version
>>>> *
>>>> * Help In Future version
>>>> *
>>>> * Globalized In Future version
>>>> *SWAvatar*
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *
>>>> * SignWriting to Avatar script In Future version
>>>> *
>>>> * Help In Future version
>>>> *
>>>> * Globalized In Future version
>>>> *SWReceptive* Expresive to Receptive In Future version
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> MARIA AZZOPARDI wrote:
>>>>> Hi Jonathan,
>>>>>
>>>>> All the features mentioned are exactly what I need, but the most imp one
>>>>> is that when you add a column of signwriting in the middle of the
>>>>> document, all following columns move to accomodate it. Like writing
>>>>> spoken languages in Word, you can insert a paragraph wherever you like and
>>>>> everything else moves to accomodate it (I don't know what this is called
>>>>> in technical terms, I'm sure there is a word for it :)
>>>>>
>>>>> So you are working on a program for signwriting documents?
>>>>>
>>>>> What about the option of printing A5 is that possible in this program?
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks for your response,
>>>>>
>>>>> Maria
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Maria,
>>>>>> I don't know of any other program yet. Mine is progressing but
>>>>>> unfinished. My document suite lets the document flow on the screen from
>>>>>> one column to the next. I haven't done the printing part yet but was
>>>>>> intending to do it in similar fashion. So when you add some text, what
>>>>>> doesn't fit on one page flows to the next, etc. The idea is also to be
>>>>>> able to have inline pictures within any of the 3 lanes of the column. I
>>>>>> can also have gloss on the signwriting or not.
>>>>>> Is this what you were wanting? What other editing features would be
>>>>>> important for you?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Jonathan
>>>>>>
>>>>>> MARIA AZZOPARDI wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I was wondering if anyone on the list has experience transferring long
>>>>>>> signwriting documents into another program (such as DocumentMaker) and
>>>>>>> maybe could suggest another program which is a little more flexible?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> DocumentMaker is very good of course, however I am thinking in terms of
>>>>>>> very long documents and one limitation in DocumentMaker is the
>>>>>>> following:
>>>>>>> Say you have completed 50 pages, then whilst editing you realise you
>>>>>>> need
>>>>>>> to add another column somewhere inbetween, say at page 25, if you add
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> column there at page 25, all that follows does not change (because each
>>>>>>> page is saved separately). It would be really good if there was a
>>>>>>> program
>>>>>>> that allowed for this flexibility.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks to all,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> maria
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
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