AW: [sw-l] Namibia handshape construction

[Valerie Sutton]

SignWriting List
May 31, 2009

Good morning, Adam and Stefan and Charles! ;-))

Thank you, by the way, Charles, for your good suggestion earlier...

And thank you, Adam, for preparing a lesson!

yes...I will give my feedback too ;-))

Val ;-)

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On May 31, 2009, at 9:11 AM, Adam Frost wrote:

> Oh Stefan,
>
> It is funny that you bring this up because Val and I were discussing  
> this very issue the other day. As we were talking about it, we found  
> a general situation that causes issues. Val and I realize that the  
> reason this is a confusing area is because it has never been  
> explained before. Partly because we didn't realize that it causes  
> problems. It wasn't until I was placing the symbols next to photos  
> that we saw it. ;-)
>
> My guess is Val is doing the same at this moment, but I will go  
> ahead and create a lesson explaining this situation since it helps  
> to have things taught in two different ways in case one way doesn't  
> explain enough. So look for my lesson in the next message. :-)
>
> Adam
>
> On May 31, 2009, at 8:47 AM, Stefan Wöhrmann <stefanwoehrmann at gebaerdenschrift.de 
> > wrote:
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>> Hello Valerie and Everyone,
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>> First of all - thank you so much for your kind support ...
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>> Obviously this SW-symbol for the “Namibia” - handshape seems to be  
>> another one that is hard for me to understand. What is the reason  
>> for that?
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>> I just thought of these pictures ???
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>> Is it possible that some handshape – symbols are difficult to  
>> understand for me because I cannot identify YOUR way to look at the  
>> hand? Smile -
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>> <image001.jpg>
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>> You can look at them in a different way – smile.
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>> – a joung lady or an old lady?
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>> Nevertheless I would love to understand your explanation –
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>> I prepared two graphics – coming next message
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>> Stefan ;-)
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>> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
>> Von: sw-l-bounces at majordomo.valenciacc.edu [mailto:sw-l-bounces at majordomo.valenciacc.edu 
>> ] Im Auftrag von Valerie Sutton
>> Gesendet: Sonntag, 31. Mai 2009 15:58
>> An: SignWriting List
>> Cc: Stefan Wöhrmann
>> Betreff: Re: [sw-l] Namibia handshape construction
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>> SignWriting List
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>> May 31, 2009
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>> Hello Stefan and Everyone!
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>> Thank you for this question. And your photos and writings are always
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>> so beautiful! Congrats on all you are doing, Stefan....
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>> Regarding the handshape in SignWriting...
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>> The photo of your hand is different than the writing of the handshape
>>
>> you are showing in the SignWriting example you have attached...The
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>> thumb is to the side in your photo...not forward...
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>> So basing it on the photo with the thumb to the side, we have that
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>> handshape already in the ISWA....I know you will be creating TrueType
>>
>> fonts, and that is great...but I am happy it is in the ISWA too, so I
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>> can show you what I mean...please see my attached screen  
>> capture...the
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>> handshape is in Group 9...the thumb to the side needs the thumb line
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>> on the other side of the rectangle base from the index finger,  
>> because
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>> when the thumb line is on the same side as the bent Index finger,  
>> that
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>> would show that the thumb and the index finger are relating to each
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>> other and it means that the thumb line is forward pointing in the  
>> same
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>> direction as the Index finger...So if you want the thumb to look like
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>> it is pointing in another direction other than the index finger, you
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>> need the thumb line on the other side of the rectangle base of the
>>
>> hand...please see my attached diagram:
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