SignWriting on Bing

Valerie Sutton sutton at SIGNWRITING.ORG
Mon Nov 30 16:31:50 UTC 2009


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November 30, 2009

Thank you for this information, Gerard!

I think the code ASE is fine for computers. You are using that code  
perfectly when you list it in a URL. The only point I was making long  
ago, is that in casual conversation among users of the language, they  
still call their language ASL...so the code is simply different than  
the conversational name of the language...

Just as when we speak English, we call the language "English, but the  
code in computers is EN. We don't say we speak EN in conversations,  
but in computers the coding EN is perfect...so conversation and coding  
are two different worlds and that is accepted...

I realize I should start using ASE for names of files in our web  
sites...but I know that people search in keywords for the keyboard  
"asl" or "ASL" most...they do not search for ASE when they want to  
find a book or document, so it is a catch 22...I know this because you  
can test keyword searches in Google, and in the sign language searches  
people search for "asl" or "ASL" most...not ASE....so again it is a  
matter of how the coding is used...

What is CLDR?

Val ;-)

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On Nov 30, 2009, at 8:21 AM, Gerard Meijssen wrote:

> Hoi,
> In the past I used for American Sign Language the ase code. This is  
> the code that Google, Bing, Yahoo et al use to identify a language  
> you know as ASL. When you get an ASL Wikipedia, the code for that  
> language will be http://ase.wikipedia.org.
>
> I appreciate your argument that many people will not like this code,  
> it is however the code that is part of the applicable standard. The  
> use of the code can be hidden from view in documents. The code is  
> the same for any written form of ASL. It is possible, not necessary,  
> to further identify the script used. The funny thing is, that as far  
> as I am aware only SignWriting has been registered with yet another  
> standard, the CLDR.
>
> The most specific code for ASL written in sign writing is ase-Sgnw
> Thanks,
>       GerardM
>
> 2009/11/30 SignWriting <signwriting at mac.com>
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> November 30, 2009
>
>
> On Nov 25, 2009, at 2:32 AM, Gerard Meijssen wrote:
> When you post on the Internet, is there a code that identifies a  
> text as ASL or better even as SignWriting ? It is one of the easiest  
> and more obvious ways of helping search engines.. All that it takes  
> is including a code as meta data in the document.
> Thanks, Gerard
>
> Hello Gerard!
> At the moment, we are not there yet. Of course we post documents  
> written in ASL or any other sign language all the time...literally  
> hundreds if not thousands have already been posted by me, in our  
> SignWriting Archives, and by others of course, and all those  
> documents are in PDF format, so the directories grab the spoken  
> language information in the PDF used to give the PDF a title, and so  
> it is listed in Google...we are posting documents in written sign  
> languages, but using spoken languages to list the titles in the  
> internet directories...
>
> Google is in many countries and languages...so in time, when we are  
> ready, i had planned to ask them to help us make written sign  
> languages available in the titles of the Google listings...just  
> haven't gotten there yet...
>
> Google, I understand, is around 80 per cent of the directory usage  
> in the world, so I would love to work with them someday on this  
> issue...
>
>
> Val ;-)
>
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