receptive vs. expressive - history?

[Gerard Meijssen]

Hoi,
When you teach the SignWriting of ASL, you do your students a disservice
when you teach them the receptive view. When you transscribe a sign language
and you use the receptive view AND you use SignWriting you place an
unreasonable burden on the people who have to make use of your
transscriptions. It is similar to writing English from right to left.

The issue with standards is that they are there for everyone. For
SignWriting to be accepted, it is vital that the conventions, the standards
used with the script are complied with by everyone.
Thanks,
      Gerard

2009/10/21 Charles Butler <chazzer3332000 at yahoo.com>

>  For me, I learned receptive first, so it was literally "write what you
> see" when you are seeing someone else's hands.  Then when they switched, I
> considered it an extension.  I just teach "write what you see".  Then
> receptive is for transcribing something brand new if you don't know the
> meaning, and then expressive when you have moved it to your own hands.
>  Expressive has become the standard for the dictionaries and most usage.
>  Dance writing is still, apparently, receptive.  It took me hours to
> transcribe video tape because I think to write what someone else is doing,
> and then reverse it to my hands is the challenge.
> Charles
>
> --- On *Tue, 10/20/09, MARIA AZZOPARDI <maria.azzopardi at um.edu.mt>* wrote:
>
>
> From: MARIA AZZOPARDI <maria.azzopardi at um.edu.mt>
> Subject: [sw-l] receptive vs. expressive - history?
> To: "SignWriting List" <sw-l at majordomo.valenciacc.edu>
> Date: Tuesday, October 20, 2009, 5:13 PM
>
> Hi all,
>
> I was wondering what to do with the receptive and expressive view points,
> when teaching signwriting.
>
> As teachers of signwriting, would you include this explanation - or would
> presenting the two possibilities create a problem that might not be there.
>
> I've found that when I explain how to signwrite the different orientations
> I explain the 'expressive viewpt' and never include the receptive view, so
> as not to 'teach' them something that I will later have to unteach.
>
> do you find that explaining the expressive view and leaving out the
> 'receptive' writing, acceptable?
>
> thanks
> Maria
>
>
>
>
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