AW: QUESTION: Dynamics and Timing Symbols

Sat Mar 2 22:44:15 UTC 2013

The point is that it is a SIGN, not a drumbeat. It is the action of beating a drum, initialized with C = candomble, M = Macumba, or U = Umbanda. It is not beating a drum it is taking the Tambor sign and modifying for a name sign.

Charles Butler

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Clear writing moves business forward.

--- On Sat, 3/2/13, Adam Frost <icemandeaf at GMAIL.COM> wrote:

From: Adam Frost <icemandeaf at GMAIL.COM>
Subject: Re: AW: QUESTION: Dynamics and Timing Symbols
To: SW-L at LISTSERV.VALENCIACOLLEGE.EDU
Date: Saturday, March 2, 2013, 5:39 PM

Only if the aim is to drive the fingertips to do the "striking" of the drum. ;-) But then again, it might be how it is actually done. I wouldn't know.
Adam
On Mar 2, 2013, at 2:24 PM, Stefan Wöhrmann wrote:
Looking at the two fingers – ouch – wouldn´t it hurt? Just my feeling but I am no drummer ... ;-))    Von: SignWriting List: Read and Write Sign Languages [mailto:SW-L at LISTSERV.VALENCIACOLLEGE.EDU] Im Auftrag von Valerie Sutton
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Betreff: Re: QUESTION: Dynamics and Timing Symbols  SignWriting ListMarch 2, 2013  Please excuse my delay in answering this question. Thank you, Charles, for caring about writing and asking questions… Second, I saw that Madson and perhaps others answered you already on Facebook - and they wrote it well too...smile…so you are getting plenty of feedback... Thanks to everyone -  Regarding the Strike symbol in your writing… The drum beat that you are trying to write below does not actually contact a surface but is mimicking the feeling of contacting a surface with the drumming movement - So that would not be written with a Strike Symbol, because the Strike must show contact with force, and there is no real contact happening…So the Tension Symbol at the end of the movement, or even the Fast Symbols would be substituted, rather than using the Strike symbols (if you feel they are necessary - they may not be - maybe too much detail?)...  Regarding
 the Alternating Symbol - no I would not use that either. When we read a group of arrows with the left and right hands, we always read the arrows from the Center - Out. So the left and right arrow that are closest to the center are read first, and then read out one by one - so there is no need to also write an Alternating Symbol…since the Alternating feeling is already there if you follow the Center-Out rule...  So I would write it this way, if we want to write lots of detail (smile):  http://www.signbank.org/signpuddle2.0/canvas.php?ui=12&sgn=46&sid=3264        Val ;-)  --------    On Feb 27, 2013, at 4:00 PM, Valerie Sutton <signwriting at mac.com> wrote:

SignWriting ListFebruary 27, 2013  Hi Charles -Thank you for this question. I will post your question to the SignWriting List so others can learn too…  There are three Timing Symbols… as you can see here:  http://www.signbank.org/iswa/2f7_sg.html    I will explain in detail next message -      Val ;-)  -------    On Feb 27, 2013, at 2:40 AM, Charles Butler <chazzer3332000 at YAHOO.COM> wrote:

Thank you, thank you.. 

Meanwhile

Take a look at this sign. Do I need the alternating arcs. I've never been sure with this as one hand goes up as the other comes down. As there is no surface (it's a drum beat) is this the right movement. Should it be ~  instead ?

Charles Butler
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