Question mark question

Jonathan Duncan duncanjonathan at YAHOO.CA
Sun Mar 23 12:10:45 UTC 2014


Hi Val,
     Thank for the explanation.  It was exactly what I wanted to know.

Thanks
Jonathan
On 3/22/2014 12:45 PM, Valerie Sutton wrote:
> SignWriting List
> March 22, 2014
>
> Hello Jonathan and Cherie!
> I will be happy to answer your question about the Question Mark next 
> message, but just to make it clear, the link and the description that 
> Jonathan has pasted here is an excerpt from a Master’s Degree Thesis 
> by Amy Rosenberg:
>
> *Writing Signed Languages
> *In Support of Adopting an ASL Writing System
>
> http://www.signwriting.org/forums/research/rese010.html
>
>
>
> by*
> Amy Rosenberg
> *Master's Thesis, University of Kansas
> Department of Linguistics, 1999
>
>
>
>
> On Mar 22, 2014, at 6:22 AM, Jonathan Duncan <duncanjonathan at yahoo.ca 
> <mailto:duncanjonathan at yahoo.ca>> wrote:
>
>> Hi all,
>>     I was wondering about question marks in Signwriting.
>>
>> I found this
>>
>> http://www.signwriting.org/forums/research/rese025.html
>>
>>
>> Any word written in SignWriting has the face, or shoulder bar on top 
>> (if necessary) and the handshape(s) around the face or shoulder bar. 
>> General movements are below the handshape(s) , but finger movements 
>> are indicated by the fingers of the handshape(s) and head movements 
>> are indicated by the face symbol . A sign dictionary written in 
>> SignWriting looks up lexical items based on the ten groups of 
>> handshapes, then on the movements, also broken down into groups, then 
>> facial expressions, then head and body positions as demonstrated in 
>> Appendix G.
>>
>> Two questionable SignWriting practices involve punctuation and the 
>> writing of fingerspelled words. Punctuation in SignWriting makes use 
>> of bars. One vertical, slightly thick bar placed after a sign 
>> indicates a period. Two thin vertical bars indicate a pause or comma 
>> , and two thin vertical bars slightly further apart indicate a longer 
>> pause or semi-colon . Two bars next to each other, one thin and the 
>> other thick indicate a question mark . Two thick bars indicate a 
>> colon . Parentheses and quotes look similar to the punctuation marks 
>> used in English. All of the punctuation marks used in SignWriting can 
>> be the same as those used to write English: . , ; ? : ( ).
>>
>>
>> There is no reason for SignWriting to adopt unique punctuation marks 
>> for American Sign Language and it does not take away from the writing 
>> of SignWriting to use English punctuation marks. Furthermore, when a 
>> signer fingerspells an English word in ASL, SignWriting uses the 
>> appropriate handshape symbol to write the letters in the English 
>> word. This is also possibly a convention that could be changed. 
>> Writing SignWriting by hand, one would probably write the 
>> fingerspelled word in English letters instead of writing the 
>> handshapes for each of the letters...*Footnote 15...
>>
>>
>> It describes a question mark as "Two bars next to each other, one 
>> thin and the other thick indicate a question mark" but that 
>> description fits the Semi-Colon.  And in the example above it there 
>> seems to the semi-colon symbol after the questions.
>> .
>>
>>
>> So is the symbol for the semi-colon the same as the question mark?
>> -- 
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