[Sw-l] Japanese Translation for Signwriting? (Also, an Introduction)

川音リオ rio.kawane at GMAIL.COM
Mon Jan 31 01:25:22 UTC 2022


Oh wow! That is so cool! And Mr.Frost looks so different from the image
that I have of him! (Image from SignWriting Hand Symbols Manual)
[image: image.png]


On Mon, Jan 31, 2022 at 10:19 AM Valerie Sutton <sutton at signwriting.org>
wrote:

> SignWriting List
> January 30, 2022
>
> Hello Adam and では〱
>
> I just found pictures of Adam teaching in Japan on Facebook! I never saw
> these pictures before today, Adam.
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> Good photos! In 2019...
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> Shinichiro Nakayama
> https://www.facebook.com/shinichiro.nakayama.9
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> https://www.facebook.com/edodeaf1952/photos/pcb.2350944348314275/2350940051648038
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> On Jan 30, 2022, at 4:04 PM, 川音リオ <rio.kawane at GMAIL.COM> wrote:
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> Dear Adam Frost,... Adam Frost‽
>
> Oh wow... I cannot believe I am responding to one of the greatest
> contributors of Signwriting!
> I absolutely admire your work on SignWriting Hand Symbols 2014! I have
> been reading your pdf almost every day for the last few weeks!
> Your dictionary that lists the picture of handshapes next to the
> signwriting have helped me understand the system tremendously and I could
> not be where I am today without the fantastic document that you and Valerie
> have created 8 years ago. Quite literally, I refer to your book whenever I
> encounter an unknown signwritten symbol or when I want to write a handsign
> that I do not know the symbol to.
>
> So, from the bottom of my heart, I must tell you: Thank you for all of
> your amazing work.
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> I did go to Tokyo a couple of years ago and teach SignWriting to several
> Deaf community members from the Edogawa Deaf Association ... I am not sure
> if they translated the teaching material into Japanese, but that would be
> the first place I would look.
> You have!? Well, thank you so much for visiting Japan! I am so delighted
> to know that signwriting was actually being taught in Japan as well!
> Okay, this is new information for me. The next thing I will do is to write
> a letter to 江戸川ろう者協会 deaf at edodeaf.com regarding about the Japanese
> translations and see if they would kindly reply...
>
> Thank you so much for all of your help!
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> ────川音リオ@KawaneRio
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> On Mon, Jan 31, 2022 at 4:33 AM Adam Frost <icemandeaf at gmail.com> wrote:
> Hello 川音リオ@KawaneRio,
>
> I did go to Tokyo a couple of years ago and teach SignWriting to several
> Deaf community members from the Edogawa Deaf Association. I think there
> might be a couple from there on the list or they might be on the Facebook
> page. I am not sure if they translated the teaching material into Japanese,
> but that would be the first place I would look.
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> Adam
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> On Jan 30, 2022, at 6:43 AM, 川音リオ <rio.kawane at GMAIL.COM> wrote:
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> Uhh... I have never used maillists in my life before, so I hope I'm doing
> this right...
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> So, um, hello to everyone reading this message. I'm 川音リオ@KawaneRio, an
> ordinary grammatologist from Virtual Japan.
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>
> Before I ask my question for the day, I just wanted to say, to dear
> Valerie Sutton,
>
> I Thank you. So much. For your extraordinary work on making a complete
> writing system for sign languages.
> I first found out about your work in a book called The World's Writing
> Systems by Peter T. Daniels and William Bright. Your name was mentioned
> just briefly among other inventors of various notations for symbols of
> signing, movement, dancing, et cetera. However, the exquisite writing
> system that you had illustrated definitely left a reverence toward you
> along with this fuzzy sentiment for what could be possible with this. I
> tried learning about your system when I was in gradeschool, but I did not
> have the resources nor the knowledge to understand everything other than
> the fact that such system existed.
> But recently, especially around 2021, my life has changed. I was spending
> more time on Virtual Reality than Real Life on some days, communicating
> with people around the globe as if they were right next to me (it's like
> the invention of telephone all over again🤣).
>
> In case you have not heard of Virtual Reality, it's a technology where you
> can communicate with others, but in 3D; almost like a video game with lots
> of players, except those players are real people and not a random character
> made by the game.
>
> The amazing thing about this "Virtual Reality", or VR for short, is that
> it allows you to see the hand and head movement of other people in real
> time! People Hard of Hearing, or even those who are deaf can play in VR
> given that they don't get headaches and eyestrains. However, there is a
> catch: most people are limited to just 7 handsigns with the game
> controllers available today. One of the most wellknown deaf communities
> in the Virtual World, known as Helping Hands, has proposed a way for
> Deaf/HoH users to communicate by using a special dialect of ASL, limited by
> just mere 7 handsigns! Thus, VRASL was created; not just by anyone, but by
> the community of deaf users and certified teachers of sign languages.
>
> Meanwhile, in Virtual Japan, there is a growing community of deaf/mute
> users, also known as 無言勢(mugon-zei). The thing with Japan though is that,
> even though there is a massive demand for Japanese Sign Language, also
> known as 日本手話(Nihon Shuwa, NS for short) in the growing community, unlike
> ASL, there are not many resources! When it comes to VRJSL; well, the
> resources are nonexistent.
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> My mission here, as a fellow grammatologist, is to make a free and open
> dictionary for Virtual Reality Japanese Sign Language, or VRJSL for short,
> available for anyone to view and use for the Virtual World!
>
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> Sorry that was a bit longer than I had initially expected. Now, for the
> question:
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> Are there any Japanese or Chinese translations of technical terms used
> in SuttonSignWriting? Specifically, I am looking for Japanese translations
> of "Perspective View" and "Top View", but if there is a comprehensive
> glossary of technical terms (especially for each of the handsigns)
> translated in other languages already, I would love to know as it would
> help me immensely in making my dictionary!
>
>
> Thank you so much for your time reading this rather stilted loft about
> myself, but I would honestly appreciate any help on the Japanese
> Translation topic.
>
>
> では〱。
>
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> ────川音リオ@KawaneRio
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