[Sw-l] QuickSignEditor in SignMaker 2017

Fri Sep 22 22:02:41 UTC 2023

Yes, it's definitely doable, just a question of asking the right 
questions the right way. Sometimes works as expected, other times you 
need to work your way up to what you're looking for.

I prompted it

"5. Technological evolution of SignWriting: The discussions touched on the complex history and technological progression of SignWriting. The creator recounted his journey of continually rebuilding systems for SignWriting, adapting to technological changes over the years, and planning for future growth. He also mentioned the development
and optimism towards Sutton SignWriting Standards of 2010, 2012, and 2017, and expressed excitement about future demos of the @sutton-signwriting/core package.

Tell me more about this and who done it."

It answered

"The individual you are referring to is Steve Slevinski. He has been diligently working on the advancement of SignWriting, a system of writing sign languages. He reflects on his continuous endeavors of constructing systems for SignWriting, adapting to changing technology over the years, and foreseeing future growth.

He expresses his enthusiasm regarding future demonstrations of the @sutton-signwriting/core package. This package is likely a part of central Sutton SignWriting technology, which is integral to the development of the SignWriting system.

He has made significant contributions to the Sutton SignWriting Standards of 2010, 2012, and 2017, showing a commitment to the improvement and standardization of SignWriting.

Furthermore, Slevinski mentions future plans to open source SignPuddle 2 software and restructure it to use a database (MySQL or SQLite) rather than Simple Piece Markup Language (SPML). The work that Slevinski is undertaking is vital in making SignWriting more accessible and interpretable by technology.

He manages several websites where you can access more information or observe this technology firsthand. Some of these websites include steveslevinski.me and the GitHub repository for sutton-signwriting. He also has demos available at steveslevinski.me/demo/fsw.html and steveslevinski.me/demo/swu.html."

Usually the descriptions are quite acurrate but sometimes ChatGPT has been known to "allucinate" and make stuff up instead of admitting that it doesn't know. LOL so usually good for a human to fact check.

Jonathan

On 9/14/2023 11:49 AM, Valerie Sutton wrote:
> Hi Steve -
> This is exciting to see number 5 paragraph but it is missing your name…I was wondering can we use Chat GPT to just search on one person’s contributions/ That alone could create a great web page of information about SignWriting contributors… are the descriptions accurate?
>
> 5. Technological evolution of SignWriting: The discussions touched on the complex history and technological progression of SignWriting. The creator recounted his journey of continually rebuilding systems for SignWriting, adapting to technological changes over the years, and planning for future growth. He also mentioned the development and optimism towards Sutton SignWriting Standards of 2010, 2012, and 2017, and expressed excitement about future demos of the @sutton-signwriting/core package.
>
> --------
>
>> On Sep 14, 2023, at 10:00 AM, Steve Slevinski <slevin at signpuddle.net> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Jonathan,
>>
>> Neat idea to use Chat GPT with the SignWriting List archive.
>>
>> It was nice to see my excitement about the @sutton-signwriting/core package.  Since it's release, this package has been downloaded over 28 thousand times from NPM.
>>
>> Regards,
>> -Steve
>>
>>
>> On 9/13/23 9:52 PM, Jonathan Duncan wrote:
>>> Hi Val, Chatting with the emails of 2020 and 2021
>>> What were the main topics that year?
>>> Based on the provided past discussions, the main topics in that year revolved around the following:
>>>   
>>> 1. The history and process of creating the SignWriter Newspaper: The conversations touched on the methodology used in producing the newspaper before the age of personal computers - using hand written ink on paper attached to boards, the use of a typesetting machine and graphical designing for the headlines, followed by photographing and printing.
>>>   
>>> 2. The role of the printing company: The contributions of a printing company in Irvine, California, were highlighted. They donated the costs of printing 11,000 copies every three months for 4 years, and also aided with addressing labels on newspapers for distribution.
>>>
>>> 3. Fundraising via a non-profit organization: A non-profit organization was instrumental in raising funds needed to cover the postage costs for the wide distribution of the newspaper.
>>>
>>> 4. Challenges and improvements in infrastructure: It was mentioned that their current infrastructure and websites required major work, but were hampered by minimal resources. The audience was urged to anticipate improvements over time.
>>>
>>> 5. Technological evolution of SignWriting: The discussions touched on the complex history and technological progression of SignWriting. The creator recounted his journey of continually rebuilding systems for SignWriting, adapting to technological changes over the years, and planning for future growth. He also mentioned the development and optimism towards Sutton SignWriting Standards of 2010, 2012, and 2017, and expressed excitement about future demos of the @sutton-signwriting/core package.
>>> Which conversations was Jonathan involved in?
>>> Jonathan Duncan was involved in several discussions, mainly around the development and release of his SW SignWriter application. Here are the main points:
>>>
>>> 1. Release of the SWSignWriter: Jonathan announced the release of SWSignWriter for Writing SignWriting. This is an application that was designed for mobile devices and web browsers. The application can be installed as an app and primarily works offline. The first version of the app had a 15-day free trial.
>>>
>>> 2. Discussion on SignWriting symbols and history: Jonathan expressed understanding and acceptance of various constraints that influenced the current form of International SignWriting Alphabet (ISWA) and the associated symbols. He acknowledged the challenges of time, resources, and energy and conveyed gratitude for having what they do.
>>>
>>> 3. Feedback on mind maps and video content: Jonathan appreciated the mind maps and suggested shorter video durations to make them more digestible and easier to fit into schedules.
>>>
>>> 4. Acknowledging hard work in the community: He acknowledged the hard work and efforts put into the development of the ISWA and related fonts.
>>>
>>> Throughout these discussions, Jonathan maintained a helpful and insightful voice, contributing to the SignWriting community's collective knowledge.
>>> About about Val?
>>> Valerie Sutton, often referred to as Val, is a significant figure in the SignWriting community. As the creator of SignWriting, she has made monumental contributions to providing written forms for sign languages.
>>>
>>> In the context you provided, Val appears to be a list moderator for the SignWriting List. This means that she helps to manage communications within the SignWriting community, facilitating discussions and information sharing.
>>>
>>> Val has extensive experience with sign languages, dance notation, and movement writing. Her work on Sutton Movement Writing and DanceWriting has made her an essential figure in these fields. Her dedication towards the SignWriting cause and her selflessness in providing resources for learners and teachers globally is remarkable.
>>> Don't you just love ChatGPT?
>>> I hope it made your day.
>>> Have a good one.
>>> On 9/13/2023 8:46 PM, Jonathan Duncan wrote:
>>>> Hi Val,
>>>>      Looking over the 2021 sign list emails with ChatGPT and found this.
>>>>
>>>> https://jonathandduncan.github.io/QuickSignEditor/signmaker/#?ui=en
>>>> <https://jonathandduncan.github.io/QuickSignEditor/signmaker/#?ui=en>
>>>>   
>>>>
>>>> Click on the button.
>>>>
>>>> Choose base symbol in the maniquin.
>>>>
>>>> The symbols are grouped by similarities
>>>>
>>>> You can choose an orientation
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Drag the symbol you need to the sign area.
>>>>
>>>> If you hit Shift-4 you can use the arrow keys to move them around.
>>>>
>>>> With the mouse you can select several symbols at once
>>>>
>>>> Hit Save and you are back in SignMaker2015
>>>>
>>>> Click on Dictionary to see the FSW.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Jonathan
>>>> Here are these instructions ChatGPT wrote from those emails for the keyboard.
>>>> The features and usage of QuickSignEditor Keyboard is as follows:
>>>>      • Click on the button to start.
>>>>      • Choose the base symbol from a 'maniquin'.
>>>>      • The symbols are grouped by similarities for easy navigation and identification.
>>>>      • You can choose an orientation for the symbol.
>>>>      • Drag the symbol you need to the sign area. You can shift the symbols around using the arrow keys by pressing Shift-4.
>>>>      • It supports mouse functions whereby you can select multiple symbols at once.
>>>>      • Once done, hit 'Save', and you will return to SignMaker2015.
>>>>      • You can then click on 'Dictionary' to view the FSW (Formal SignWriting).
>>>> I hope that helps.
>>>> Jonathan
>>>> On 9/13/2023 11:19 AM, Valerie Sutton wrote:
>>>>> SignWriting List
>>>>> September 13, 2023
>>>>>
>>>>> Thank you, Jonathan, for mentioning QuickSignEditor
>>>>>
>>>>> QuickSignEditor
>>>>> https://jonathandduncan.github.io/QuickSignEditor/signmaker
>>>>>
>>>>> I have attached a screen capture. I see the QuickSignEditor link top right on the screen. Can you explain how does it work? Can you give us a brief summary?...
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> _________
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sep 12, 2023, at 7:35 AM, Jonathan Duncan <jonathandouglasduncan at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> clip...…..this version of SignMaker, it’s has my QuickSignEditor in it, which makes it possible to choose the symbols with the keyboard or the mouse and a lot of other interesting improvements to writing with SignWriting.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://jonathandduncan.github.io/QuickSignEditor/signmaker
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Jonathan
>>>>>>
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