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<P>Hi Val & Neil :</P></DIV>
<P>The quistion were the same too but the different was by the way of asking </P>
<P>G1 The quistion and the asnswer was written in Arabic language </P>
<P>G2 The quistion and the asnswer was written in Signlanguage </P></DIV>
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<P>G3 The quistion and the asnswer was written in Signlanguage and Arabic language</P>
<P>I wish I made it clear now</P>
<P>mohamed</P>
<P>From: Valerie Sutton <SUTTON@SIGNWRITING.ORG></P>
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<DIV></DIV>>Reply-To: SignWriting List <SW-L@ADMIN.HUMBERC.ON.CA>
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<DIV></DIV>>To: SW-L@ADMIN.HUMBERC.ON.CA
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<DIV></DIV>>Subject: Re: Saudi Arabian SignWriting Study!
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<DIV></DIV>>Date: Fri, 24 May 2002 15:25:07 -0700
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<DIV></DIV>>>Neil Bauman wrote: Val, I think you still misunderstand Mohamed.
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<DIV></DIV>>>The
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<DIV></DIV>>>way I understand what he
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<DIV></DIV>>>wrote is that he gave the same class of students three different
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<DIV></DIV>>>tests--one in SW, one in Arabic and one with both SW and Arabic
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<DIV></DIV>>>questions. So it was the same students that got the three different
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<DIV></DIV>>>scores, depending on the language the test was written in. Is this
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<DIV></DIV>>>what you were trying to say Mohamed? Neil
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<DIV></DIV>>SignWriting List
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<DIV></DIV>>May 24, 2002
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<DIV></DIV>>Really? wow - that is different. If that is true, I did
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<DIV></DIV>>misunderstand. I assumed it was three control groups...three
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<DIV></DIV>>groups got asked the same questions in three different ways...
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<DIV></DIV>>But if it was the same students with three different tests, that
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<DIV></DIV>>still is positive and shows that SignWriting was a help.
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<DIV></DIV>>A control group study was done on DanceWriting in the early 1980's.
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<DIV></DIV>>Dr. Nancy Moses received her Ph.D at Boston University in "Movement
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<DIV></DIV>>Studies", by writing her dissertation on studying three control
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<DIV></DIV>>groups of dancers, to see if DanceWriting helped them learn a dance.
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<DIV></DIV>>Group One did not learn DanceWriting. They learned a dance by
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<DIV></DIV>>physically dancing it and copying each other's movements on the
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<DIV></DIV>>Group Two learned the dance by reading a DanceWriting document..but
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<DIV></DIV>>never danced it themselves - only read the DanceWriting.
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<DIV></DIV>>Group Three learned the dance with a combination of reading
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<DIV></DIV>>DanceWriting and also doing it physically.
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<DIV></DIV>>This was a six-week study. The test asked them to do the dance from
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<DIV></DIV>>memory. The results were strongly in DanceWriting's favor. The group
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<DIV></DIV>>that had no DanceWriting had the poorest scores. The group that
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<DIV></DIV>>combined the two did better. But the group that learned the dance by
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<DIV></DIV>>reading it only, was the group that memorized the dance the best -
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<DIV></DIV>>Nancy's professor called me and asked me to come in to see the
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<DIV></DIV>>results - The professor was amazed that the results were so positive
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<DIV></DIV>>.....He had assumed the opposite and was really surprised...
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<DIV></DIV>>So I am hoping that a control group study will be done someday with
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<DIV></DIV>>SignWriting - Certainly Mohamed's study is the closest we have come
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<DIV></DIV>>to that idea...
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<DIV></DIV>>Val ;-)
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