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<DIV><SPAN class=747383509-15022003><FONT face=Arial size=2>Dear Antony, Valerie
and listmembers</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=747383509-15022003><FONT face=Arial
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=747383509-15022003><FONT face=Arial size=2>I read your message
and had to smile - well - it takes some time to learn to read SW but it
takes much more to become an experienced user of the SW4.4 program with all the
wonderful possibilities that are hidden in this great program. Even more time is
needed to become an experienced scribe - that is not just to use the
program but to wirte documents that can be understood by readers who are
able to read SW but are as well familiar with the SL in wich the document is
written. </FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=747383509-15022003></SPAN><SPAN
class=747383509-15022003></SPAN><SPAN class=747383509-15022003><FONT face=Arial
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=747383509-15022003><FONT face=Arial size=2>In order to allow
people who get interested in reading and writing SW I offer in Germany two
different weekend-workshops . After these the participants are informed about
many many little problems and how to find the solution. It is amazing to watch
them writing their first documents after only a few hours of instruction.
</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=747383509-15022003></SPAN><SPAN
class=747383509-15022003></SPAN><SPAN class=747383509-15022003><FONT face=Arial
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=747383509-15022003><FONT face=Arial size=2>In the meantime I
have lot of experiences in teaching people how to read and how to write SW .
Many presentations, workshops helped me to create numerous teaching materials ,
tipps and tricks ... </FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=747383509-15022003></SPAN><SPAN class=747383509-15022003><FONT
face=Arial size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=747383509-15022003><FONT face=Arial size=2>When I started to
learn to use SW or GebaerdenSchrift as we call it here in Germany -
there has not been any single sign written in German Sign Language. So I had to
start from scratch. At that time the SW - I got lot of support from experiences
members of the LIST. I started to write my first signs .I presented these signs
and felt so grateful to learn from the feedback. Puuh I made so many mistakes -
not knowing ... I got stuck because of printing-problems, or other typing -
problems. Datas got lost, the program collapsed .... </FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=747383509-15022003><FONT face=Arial
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=747383509-15022003><FONT face=Arial size=2>I am still on my way
to learn to read !!!!!!!! There are some signs and symbols that are not
handled the same way in all the countries that use SW. I would love to start a
discussion to get more clarification on this issue. </FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=747383509-15022003><FONT face=Arial
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=747383509-15022003><FONT face=Arial size=2>Anyway - here is my
suggestion - I invite you and other beginners to post questions to the List that
are connected with " how to get started -" "How to use the SW4.4 Program
etc.) </FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=747383509-15022003><FONT face=Arial size=2>To start with a
small project - as you suggested - is a wonderful idea ! Think steps - think
future</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=747383509-15022003><FONT face=Arial
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=747383509-15022003><FONT face=Arial size=2>I can try to answer
all these questions and will try to make a collection of FAQ and to offer this
list of questions and answers on the website <A
href="http://www.gebaerdenschrift.de">www.gebaerdenschrift.de</A> ..
</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=747383509-15022003><FONT face=Arial
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=747383509-15022003><FONT face=Arial size=2>In order to get not
confused it would be helpful to give a number and a "title" to the question -
</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=747383509-15022003><FONT face=Arial
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=747383509-15022003><FONT face=Arial size=2>If other beginners
would like to participate in this "instruction course" you are all welcome
;-) </FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=747383509-15022003><FONT face=Arial
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=747383509-15022003><FONT face=Arial size=2>Just go ahead a
write your first question - the only rule : one question within one email - in
order to get not confused and to learn step by step - added gifs are very
helpful to clarify most problems.. ;-) </FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
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size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=747383509-15022003><FONT face=Arial size=2>Stefan ;-)))
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<DIV><SPAN class=747383509-15022003><FONT face=Arial size=2>Your message offers
a lot of </FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Tahoma
size=2>-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----<BR><B>Von:</B> SignWriting List
[mailto:SW-L@ADMIN.HUMBERC.ON.CA]<B>Im Auftrag von </B>Antony
Daamen<BR><B>Gesendet:</B> Samstag, 15. Februar 2003 00:30<BR><B>An:</B>
SW-L@ADMIN.HUMBERC.ON.CA<BR><B>Betreff:</B> Re: New Handshapes to Be Added to
SymbolBank....<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV>15/02/03</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Hi Val and all others,</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>I have downloaded th eprogram and have been playing with it.
Trying to understand and learning............</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>I wanted to write the sign: "How are you?" in
Auslan.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>maybe it is a difficult sign to write, but I had to start
somewhere....</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>As it is a Wh-question (who where how what?) the eyebrows are
raised, the head slightly tilted. (=A question mark - body
language.)</DIV>
<DIV>The four fingers are pointed to the chest, the thumb is pointed to
the sky.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>the hand(s) move forward from the chest, toward the
person whom the question is asked, and changes to the "good"
handshape,which is: fist, with the thumb up.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>can be one-handed or two handed, depending on: the 'slang' of the
person, the intensity ( if you haven't seen your best friend for a
while, or just a morning greeting), also if you have something in one
hand :-)</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>ok. I have been playing with your program and have not been able to
get it right....</DIV>
<DIV>Can't find the first handshape, cant raise the eyebrows. find the
right picture for raise eyebrows, but when I press the corresponding
key, a white square apears on the left bottom and that is all...</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Ok then i decided to do something more simple: the Our Father
prayer. </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>I found the fist handshape, but could not find the right-hand
arrow.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>both fists in front of the body, found one arrow in the left
direction, but not the arrow for the other hand....</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>After my playing i have read the instructions, but was
nothing the wiser....</DIV>
<DIV>So sorry, I have to stick my hand up in class or line up for
help with the other students.... </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Thank you -my favourite teacher- would you be able to push me in
the right direction??</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Antony</DIV></TD></TR>
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