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<DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Tahoma
size=2>-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----<BR><B>Von:</B> Stefan Woehrmann
[mailto:stefanwoehrmann@gebaerdenschrift.de]<BR><B>Gesendet:</B> Dienstag, 18.
Februar 2003 18:39<BR><B>An:</B> Antony Daamen<BR><B>Betreff:</B> AW:
How-are-you? Auslan<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=905584916-18022003><FONT face=Arial size=2>Hi Antony, Valerie
and Listmembers- </FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=905584916-18022003><FONT face=Arial
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=905584916-18022003><FONT face=Arial size=2>this is fun - isn`t
it ? </FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=905584916-18022003><FONT face=Arial
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=905584916-18022003><FONT face=Arial size=2>Ha - so we already
learned that SW - graphics are helpful to understand what has to be added to our
descriptions in words- </FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=905584916-18022003><FONT face=Arial
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=905584916-18022003><FONT face=Arial size=2>SW is so much better
to describe all the parameters of a given sign within one sign ;-)))
</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=905584916-18022003><FONT face=Arial
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=905584916-18022003><FONT face=Arial size=2>1) Do not worry
about DOS - the logic of the SW4.4 program is amazing - once you have
learned and understood the principles that are hidden behind the keys
..</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=905584916-18022003><FONT face=Arial
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=905584916-18022003><FONT face=Arial size=2>2) There is no way
but to study the manual carefully. I have already studied it several (!!) times
and each time there is a new hint, a new solution to another problem.
;-))</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=905584916-18022003><FONT face=Arial
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=905584916-18022003><FONT face=Arial size=2>3) So you feel that
you should describe your sign in mind "How are you" in more detail - congrats -
you understood the handsymbol for an open five- fingers- hand perfectly.
</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=905584916-18022003><FONT face=Arial
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=905584916-18022003><FONT face=Arial size=2>I wrote the
startposition - fingers pointing to the chest - thumb upside --
</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=905584916-18022003><FONT face=Arial
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=905584916-18022003><FONT face=Arial size=2>You would prefer the
angle-hand - </FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=905584916-18022003><FONT face=Arial
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=905584916-18022003><FONT face=Arial size=2>This is an
interesting question - As far as I understand - in SW we do not distinguish
between the anglehand with fingers together or fingers spread
-</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=905584916-18022003><FONT face=Arial
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=905584916-18022003><FONT face=Arial
size=2>---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=905584916-18022003><FONT face=Arial
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=905584916-18022003><FONT face=Arial size=2> Hi Valerie
---------------</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=905584916-18022003><FONT face=Arial
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=905584916-18022003><FONT face=Arial size=2> (What do you
think Valerie should we add an aditional sign - angle-hand with the four fingers
spread like in 01 05 001 01 01 01 BS ) </FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=905584916-18022003><FONT face=Arial
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=905584916-18022003><FONT face=Arial
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=905584916-18022003><FONT face=Arial size=2>Sometimes I look for
this symbol myself - almost like 01 05 006 01 01
03 but thumb aside (!!) </FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=905584916-18022003><FONT face=Arial
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
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<DIV><SPAN class=905584916-18022003><FONT face=Arial
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=905584916-18022003><FONT face=Arial
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=905584916-18022003><FONT face=Arial size=2>I had to smile at
your interpretation of my spelling - attached you find the spelling that goes
along with your description - ha - </FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=905584916-18022003><FONT face=Arial
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=905584916-18022003><FONT face=Arial size=2>( ,,,hm and I
believe that there are SL in the world that this middle finger up is not
interpreted in this "rude" sense ... ;-)) -</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=905584916-18022003><FONT face=Arial size=2>Mark Penner might be
able to inform us ?? ) </FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=905584916-18022003><FONT face=Arial
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=905584916-18022003><FONT face=Arial size=2>to be continued
</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=905584916-18022003><FONT face=Arial
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=905584916-18022003><FONT face=Arial size=2>Stefan :-))
</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=905584916-18022003><FONT face=Arial
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=905584916-18022003><FONT face=Arial
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
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<DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Tahoma
size=2>-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----<BR><B>Von:</B> Antony Daamen
[mailto:adaamen@optusnet.com.au]<BR><B>Gesendet:</B> Dienstag, 18. Februar
2003 01:49<BR><B>An:</B>
stefanwoehrmann@gebaerdenschrift.de<BR><B>Betreff:</B> How-are-you?
Auslan<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV>18/02/03</DIV>
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<DIV>Hi Stefan,</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Thanks for your offer to become my teacher!! normally I can figure
out programs pretty quickly by just trial-and-error, but this DOS
(Grrrr) program isn't as easy and 'common sense' as others....</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Grrr I typed a beautiful e-mail and the program crashed.... try
again...</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>I think that I didn't explain it clearly....</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>In the 'start sign' the fingers are pointed to the chest and the
thumb up. This makes the hand bend at the knuckles at about 90
degrees.....</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Then the hand moves forward (away from the chest) an becomes the
'good' sign, which is a fist with the thumb up...</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>your sign looks like a start sign of a open hand (like a handshake)
and moves from right bottom of the chest to left top of the chest and
becomes a 'rude' handshape (middle finger up!)<BR></DIV>
<DIV>sorry about that</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>I think we try this from a side-on view, but then the facial
expression isn't clear....</DIV></TD></TR>
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