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<DIV><SPAN class=670481419-24052003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Hi
Valerie , </FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=670481419-24052003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=670481419-24052003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>You
wrote: </FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=670481419-24052003>"The reason my documents are done
differently, at different times, is because I am writing for different audiences
at different times...So SignWriting is not a theory...it is just a writing
system that can be applied as the writer chooses..." </SPAN></DIV>
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size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=670481419-24052003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=670481419-24052003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>This
is a very important statement. Fact is that my style of spelling is very
much connected with my assumtion about my readers ability to read this document,
to understand the expressed idea. My students are asked to learn Spoken
German with the help of GebaerdenSchrift
-documents. </FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV><SPAN class=670481419-24052003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>In
Germany the mouthmovements that go along with the signing are very important.
You would not be able to understand many documents if I would not add
the mouth-expressions - </FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV><SPAN class=670481419-24052003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>On the
other hand there are DGS - performances in which mouth - gestures express
other meanings but not articulation-movements of spoken words
.... </FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV><SPAN class=670481419-24052003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>What
I understand now is, that the scribe has to make a decision how
exact or how detailed he needs to write his
document. </FONT> </SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=670481419-24052003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=670481419-24052003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>By the
way - it is almost the same with other writing systems. Look at the big block-
letters for hearing children in the beginning of their . My children love
to see some special spellings that are especially constructed to
make the laugh ... like the attached sign for a dog (FU - a boy) and
another dog (FARA - a girl) </FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=670481419-24052003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Have
fun </FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=670481419-24052003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=670481419-24052003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Stefan
;-)) </FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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size=2></FONT> </DIV>
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<DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Tahoma
size=2>-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----<BR><B>Von:</B> SignWriting List
[mailto:SW-L@ADMIN.HUMBERC.ON.CA]<B>Im Auftrag von </B>dac<BR><B>Gesendet:</B>
Donnerstag, 15. Mai 2003 21:08<BR><B>An:</B>
SW-L@ADMIN.HUMBERC.ON.CA<BR><B>Betreff:</B> QUESTION: write ASL and English
"separate but equal?"...<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>SignWriting List<BR>May 15,
2003<BR><BR>QUESTION:<BR>Are we required to write the ASL and English as
separate languages, or can we place English words directly under the
SignWriting signs to help people learn signs?<BR><BR>ANSWER: There isn't one
set way to use SignWriting when teaching. You are welcome to present it as you
wish. It all depends on who you are teaching, and why they are learning to
read and write signs.<BR><BR>If your students are Deaf and know ASL fluently,
then writing each language separately, is a wonderful way to show the
differences in grammar and how each language has its own unique beauty and
grammar structure. It establishes respect for ASL, showing that the language
has a written form now, just as English does...<BR><BR>If you place the words
directly under each sign, that might be good for hearing people, like your
students, who are just learning how to sign....so it depends on who you are
writing for...<BR><BR>Plus some Deaf people are new to SignWriting too, so
sometimes placing words under the signs helps people get started...then when
they become fluent in reading SignWriting, the "separate but equal"
language-documents become easier to read, and also preferable...<BR><BR>The
reason my documents are done differently, at different times, is because I am
writing for different audiences at different times...So SignWriting is not a
theory...it is just a writing system that can be applied as the writer
chooses...<BR><BR>Best of luck with your teaching -<BR><BR><?fontfamily><?param Chicago><?color><?param 5454,0000,0000><?smaller><?smaller><?smaller>Val
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