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<P>Dear Val!</P>
<P>I know what you mean. Of course the fact is any real numbers cannot be given and that's in a way how things even should be, as we're talking about a real alot-used system.Thanks for your thoughts. :) <BR></P>
<P>Nitsu</P></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>>From: Valerie Sutton <SUTTON@SIGNWRITING.ORG>
<DIV></DIV>>Reply-To: SignWriting List <SW-L@ADMIN.HUMBERC.ON.CA>
<DIV></DIV>>To: SW-L@ADMIN.HUMBERC.ON.CA
<DIV></DIV>>Subject: Re: SW materials/Val
<DIV></DIV>>Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2003 08:23:00 -0700
<DIV></DIV>>
<DIV></DIV>>SignWriting List
<DIV></DIV>>September 29, 2003
<DIV></DIV>>
<DIV></DIV>>Nitsu Pikkupyora from Finland wrote:
<DIV></DIV>>>.....I guess I just need to say in my thesis that there are
<DIV></DIV>>>"several publications from this-and-this-and-this country but
<DIV></DIV>>>nobody really knows how much there is altogether"... In a way it's
<DIV></DIV>>>a pitty, it would have been nice to say that "from Nicaraqua there
<DIV></DIV>>>is 50, spain 40, ASL 150, swiss-german 30...." But I guess I'll
<DIV></DIV>>>have to live with this :) But already knowing about the
<DIV></DIV>>>dictionaries etc is helpful, at least I can mention them, and the
<DIV></DIV>>>computer softwares I can get from SW-website. So I have SOMETHING
<DIV></DIV>>>to tell...Niina:)
<DIV></DIV>>
<DIV></DIV>>Dear SW List members, and Niina:
<DIV></DIV>>I understand your dilemma, but actually this proves, in a strange
<DIV></DIV>>way, that SignWriting is truly a written form for a series of
<DIV></DIV>>languages...because it is used so much on a daily basis, in certain
<DIV></DIV>>groups around the world, that there is no way that I have any
<DIV></DIV>>control over it...How can I list ALL their publications on the web,
<DIV></DIV>>if I am not there working personally with each group in 27
<DIV></DIV>>countries?...We are trying to list things...that is one of my goals,
<DIV></DIV>>but let's pose this question...
<DIV></DIV>>
<DIV></DIV>>How many publications are there, in the world, written in the spoken
<DIV></DIV>>language of Finland (Finnish)?
<DIV></DIV>>
<DIV></DIV>>If you had to answer that question, how would you go about such a
<DIV></DIV>>broad answer? You could consult with libararians around the world,
<DIV></DIV>>because there are Finnish publications around the world, but the
<DIV></DIV>>chances of you ever getting a "number" with any accuracy is
<DIV></DIV>>slight...Meanwhile, we all know there are plenty - ha!
<DIV></DIV>>
<DIV></DIV>>Here in the US we have a little phrase for all this....it is "lying
<DIV></DIV>>with statistics"...the phrase means that we try so hard to come up
<DIV></DIV>>with numbers on "how many Deaf?" or "how many this or that", and the
<DIV></DIV>>truth is, no estimated number can be correct under such broad
<DIV></DIV>>questions...So the main point is to explain that SignWriting is used
<DIV></DIV>>daily around the world and there is not an accurate count, since
<DIV></DIV>>Valerie's web sites are only a small fraction of what is happening
<DIV></DIV>>worldwide...
<DIV></DIV>>
<DIV></DIV>>Val ;-)
<DIV></DIV>>
<DIV></DIV>>Valerie Sutton
<DIV></DIV>>Sutton@SignWriting.org
<DIV></DIV>>
<DIV></DIV>>1. SignWriting Site
<DIV></DIV>>http://www.SignWriting.org
<DIV></DIV>>Read & Write Sign Languages
<DIV></DIV>>
<DIV></DIV>>2. SignBank Site
<DIV></DIV>>http://www.SignBank.org
<DIV></DIV>>Sign Language Dictionaries
<DIV></DIV>>
<DIV></DIV>>3. SignWriting Shop
<DIV></DIV>>http://www.SuttonShop.com
<DIV></DIV>>Books, videos, CDs, software
<DIV></DIV>>
<DIV></DIV>>4. Post to SignWriting List
<DIV></DIV>>SW-L@ADMIN.HUMBERC.ON.CA
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<DIV></DIV>>5. SignWriting List Archives
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