<DIV>Well, I'm proposing that we may want to have guidelines for public dictionaries, as opposed to "citation cards".</DIV>
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<DIV>Right now, PUDL has "citation cards"; exactly the way that Webster's collects information. You show a "word" in context, which in this case may be "left-handed" and when you create a dictionary, you must, if it is to be an exhaustive dictionary, show both left and right-handed variants. Else, how is one to "look up" a sign if all you have is the right hand sign, and what is shown is the left-handed variant. How are you to "proof" that you have spelled it correctly, if it is flopped to the opposite hand.</DIV>
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<DIV>For me, the IMWA should parallel the IPA. The IPA allows one to "exactly" reproduce the sounds of the human voice, no matter how complicated. If I write an utterance in IMWA, then I better be consistent with left and right hands, unless the signer themselves switches back and forth in the same narrative. </DIV>
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<DIV>If I am reading back a publication, my job as an editor is to note "variant" spellings and check with the signer to ensure that they wrote what they meant to sign.</DIV>
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<DIV><BR><BR><B><I>Valerie Sutton <sutton@signwriting.org></I></B> wrote:</DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE class=replbq style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid">SignWriting List<BR>July 12, 2004<BR><BR>On Jul 12, 2004, at 8:39 AM, Charles Butler wrote:<BR>> A dictionary, for me, should at least be consistent in the use of the <BR>> left or right hand for display purposes unless signing with the left <BR>> or right hand actually changes the meaning of the sign, which, at <BR>> least for now, I have not yet found an example of the same sign using <BR>> either hand as dominant meaning something different.<BR><BR>Dear SW List and Charles -<BR>As a dictionary creator, of course you had to develop your own <BR>guidelines for your specific dictionaries. But other dictionary <BR>creators may not follow those guidelines..<BR><BR>Since reading a left-handed signer is the same experience as reading a <BR>right-handed signer, in everyday conversations, it doesn't bother me <BR>personally if a sign is left-handed or right-hand!
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<BR>dictionary...And in a public dictionary such as the PUDL dictionary, it <BR>is bound to have differences like that...without knowing or following <BR>any specific guidelines...So I guess you can't expect all dictionaries <BR>to be exactly like yours...<BR><BR>There are also mistakes in every dictionary in the world...no matter <BR>what the language...and some of those mistakes are not really mistakes, <BR>but different interpretations...so you can only be responsible for your <BR>own dictionary...and other dictionaries may have variations...<BR><BR>I have to get back to the IMWA, or we will never have standardization...<BR><BR>But I am glad that the List is working so well...and I hope you all <BR>will keep posting messages, with or without me!<BR><BR>Val ;-)<BR><BR><BR>Valerie Sutton<BR>Sutton@SignWriting.org<BR><BR>1. SignWritingSite<BR>http://www.SignWriting.org<BR>Read & Write Sign Languages<BR><BR>2. SignBankSite<BR>http://www.SignBank.org<BR>Sign Language
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