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List,</SPAN><?xml:namespace prefix = o ns =
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style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Sign Puddle uses
country codes to divide the dictionaries. It would be better to use
language codes. </SPAN><o:p></o:p></P>
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class=208504520-08092004>Langauge codes and country codes have been formalized
to avoid confusion. </SPAN>ISO 639</FONT><SPAN style="COLOR: blue">
describes the various language codes, but does not contain a single sign
language. I'm speechless!<o:p></o:p></SPAN></SPAN></P>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Does anyone know how we
can get this changed?<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">-Stephen<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P><SPAN
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href="http://www.oculog.net">www.oculog.net</A></SPAN></FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Tahoma
size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B>
owner-sw-l@majordomo.valenciacc.edu
[mailto:owner-sw-l@majordomo.valenciacc.edu]<B>On Behalf Of </B>Stuart
Thiessen<BR><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, September 08, 2004 12:50 PM<BR><B>To:</B>
sw-l@majordomo.valenciacc.edu<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [sw-l] British Sign
Language Flag in SignPuddle<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>And in the Philipines and to
some extent in some other countries I believe. This is where sign languages
don't always follow country lines.<BR><BR>The opposite quandry, I suppose, is
where you have multiple sign languages in a country such as Spain, India, and
others. Even Canada fits in both categories where it uses ASL and
LSQ.<BR><BR>The exceptions certainly make life interesting. I believe Valerie
went with the flag idea so that we wouldn't have a continuation of the acronym
debate ... such as ... Is BSL British Sign Language or Brazilian Sign
Language? Or should we use UKSL ... or LSB for Brazil ... or
..........Should Argentine Sign Language be ASL or LSA or LAS .....<BR><BR>By
using the flags, we might have some idea of its affiliation without getting
into the acronym thing. But there are still these challenges. Ah,
well!<BR><BR>What's life without some controversy to keep things lively, eh?
;-)<BR><BR>Stuart<BR><BR>Sandy Fleming wrote:
<BLOCKQUOTE cite=midNEBBIMDECLENJCNAKJDBGEPODNAA.sandy@fleimin.demon.co.uk
type="cite"><PRE wrap="">Trevor,
I believe they use both BSL and ISL there according to whether they're
catholic or protestant, though due to politics it's not easy to make out
exactly what the truth is.
Anyway, why use the flag of the USA for ASL? It's the usual sign language in
Canada too, isn't it?
Sandy
</PRE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><PRE wrap="">-----Original Message-----
From: <A class=moz-txt-link-abbreviated href="mailto:owner-sw-l@majordomo.valenciacc.edu">owner-sw-l@majordomo.valenciacc.edu</A>
[<A class=moz-txt-link-freetext href="mailto:owner-sw-l@majordomo.valenciacc.edu">mailto:owner-sw-l@majordomo.valenciacc.edu</A>]On Behalf Of Trevor Jenkins
Sent: 08 September 2004 19:22
To: <A class=moz-txt-link-abbreviated href="mailto:sw-l@majordomo.valenciacc.edu">sw-l@majordomo.valenciacc.edu</A>
Subject: RE: [sw-l] British Sign Language Flag in SignPuddle
On Wed, 8 Sep 2004, Sandy Fleming <A class=moz-txt-link-rfc2396E href="mailto:sandy@FLEIMIN.DEMON.CO.UK"><sandy@FLEIMIN.DEMON.CO.UK></A> wrote:
</PRE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><PRE wrap="">It should be the Union Jack since, unlike English, BSL is
</PRE></BLOCKQUOTE><PRE wrap="">indigenous to the
</PRE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><PRE wrap="">whole of the UK.
</PRE></BLOCKQUOTE><PRE wrap="">You sure about that? North Ireland (a constituent part of the UK) surely
uses IRL.
</PRE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><PRE wrap="">Sandy
</PRE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><PRE wrap="">-----Original Message-----
From: <A class=moz-txt-link-abbreviated href="mailto:owner-sw-l@majordomo.valenciacc.edu">owner-sw-l@majordomo.valenciacc.edu</A>
[<A class=moz-txt-link-freetext href="mailto:owner-sw-l@majordomo.valenciacc.edu">mailto:owner-sw-l@majordomo.valenciacc.edu</A>]On Behalf Of
</PRE></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE><PRE wrap="">Valerie Sutton
</PRE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><PRE wrap="">Sent: 07 September 2004 18:46
To: <A class=moz-txt-link-abbreviated href="mailto:sw-l@majordomo.valenciacc.edu">sw-l@majordomo.valenciacc.edu</A>
Subject: Re: [sw-l] British Sign Language Flag in SignPuddle
SignWriting List
September 7, 2004
Sandy-
At the bottom of SignPuddle pages, you can click on a tiny flag to
change countries. Stephen used the tiny flag for England (or Great
Britain). When you click on that flag, it will take you to the BSL
page...Meanwhile, I was using the flag for UK on other web pages...We
need to coordinate our web pages so we are using the same flag to
represent BSL...Which flag do you choose? ...smile ...Val ;-)
</PRE></BLOCKQUOTE><PRE wrap=""> </PRE></BLOCKQUOTE><PRE wrap="">Regards, Trevor
<>< Re: deemed!
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