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<DIV><SPAN class=456370723-22092004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>Bill,</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=456370723-22092004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=456370723-22092004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>I can
fix the XY coordinates easy enough, but the mapping between SSS-US and SSS-2004
does not yet exist. And when the mapping exists, I will still need to
program the mapping. I've got a headache just thinking about
it.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=456370723-22092004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=456370723-22092004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN
class=456370723-22092004><FONT face="Times New Roman" color=#000000 size=3>Is
the Y coordinate positive going down? Yes. <FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>(</FONT></FONT></SPAN><SPAN class=456370723-22092004>0,0) is the
top-left. X increases to the right. Y increases going
down.</SPAN></FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=456370723-22092004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN
class=456370723-22092004></SPAN></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=456370723-22092004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN
class=456370723-22092004>-Stephen</SPAN></FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=456370723-22092004></SPAN><FONT face=Tahoma><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2></FONT><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2></FONT><FONT
face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2></FONT><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2></FONT><BR><FONT size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B>
owner-sw-l@majordomo.valenciacc.edu
[mailto:owner-sw-l@majordomo.valenciacc.edu]<B>On Behalf Of </B>Bill
Reese<BR><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, September 22, 2004 12:11 PM<BR><B>To:</B>
sw-l@majordomo.valenciacc.edu<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [sw-l] Please test new
SignMaker with Drag and Drop<BR><BR></FONT></DIV></FONT>
<BLOCKQUOTE dir=ltr style="MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">Stephen,<BR>Not enough
information. :-)<BR>You may be able to make a couple editing macros to
correct the old build files that are using the old SSS-US subset and also to
correct for the XY coordinates. <BR><BR>I notice that you say that the present
origin point of the XY coordinates is at the upper-left corner and yet, the Y
coordinates are positive. Is the Y coordinate positive going
down?<BR><BR>Bill<BR><BR><BR>Stephen Slevinski wrote:<BR>
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<DIV><SPAN class=101172220-22092004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Hi
Bill,</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=101172220-22092004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>I
am storing the internal design of the signs added to Sign Puddle with Sign
Maker.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=101172220-22092004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>I
added the graphic drama with Sign Maker. The image file is
located:</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=101172220-22092004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><A
href="http://www.oculog.net/puddle/dict/sl/drama.png">http://www.oculog.net/puddle/dict/sl/drama.png</A></FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=101172220-22092004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>The information to build this file is located:</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=101172220-22092004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><A
href="http://www.oculog.net/puddle/dict/sl/drama.bld">http://www.oculog.net/puddle/dict/sl/drama.bld</A></FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=101172220-22092004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>The contents of the build file is:</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=101172220-22092004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>03-06-001-01-01-02,69,88,03-06-001-01-01-03,95,108,03-02-002-01-01-01,69,88,03-02-002-01-01-03,95,108,</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=101172220-22092004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>To
break this down, it is a combination of SSS id and XY
coordinates.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=101172220-22092004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>03-06-001-01-01-02 @ </FONT></SPAN><SPAN
class=101172220-22092004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>( 69,
</FONT></SPAN><SPAN class=101172220-22092004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>88 )</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=101172220-22092004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>03-06-001-01-01-03 @ ( 95, 108 )</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=101172220-22092004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>03-02-002-01-01-01 @ ( 69, 88 )</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=101172220-22092004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>03-02-002-01-01-03 @ ( 95, 108)</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=101172220-22092004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>The information in the build file can be used with a php script I
created: image.php. Using this script is easy.
</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=101172220-22092004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><A
href="http://www.oculog.net/puddle/image.php?build=03-06-001-01-01-02,69,88,03-06-001-01-01-03,95,108,03-02-002-01-01-01,69,88,03-02-002-01-01-03,95,108">http://www.oculog.net/puddle/image.php?build<SPAN
class=101172220-22092004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>=03-06-001-01-01-02,69,88,03-06-001-01-01-03,95,108,03-02-002-01-01-01,69,88,03-02-002-01-01-03,95,108</FONT></SPAN></A><FONT
face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>,</FONT></FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=101172220-22092004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2><SPAN class=101172220-22092004>Opening this page will display the
symbol.</SPAN></FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=101172220-22092004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2><SPAN class=101172220-22092004>So, it should be possible to edit
existing symbols. I just need to create the design and add the
code.</SPAN></FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=101172220-22092004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2><SPAN class=101172220-22092004>Unfortunately, the previous signs
added to the Sign Puddle dictionary have problems with the build
files. Some of the symbols use the old SSS-US numbers. The other
signs have the XY coordinates as the center of the symbols, rather than the
upper-left. (Poor design choice)</SPAN></FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=101172220-22092004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2><SPAN class=101172220-22092004>Probably too much information
but...</SPAN></FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=101172220-22092004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2><SPAN class=101172220-22092004>-Stephen</SPAN></FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE dir=ltr style="MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
<DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Tahoma
size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> <A
class=moz-txt-link-abbreviated
href="mailto:owner-sw-l@majordomo.valenciacc.edu">owner-sw-l@majordomo.valenciacc.edu</A>
[<A class=moz-txt-link-freetext
href="mailto:owner-sw-l@majordomo.valenciacc.edu">mailto:owner-sw-l@majordomo.valenciacc.edu</A>]<B>On
Behalf Of </B>Bill Reese<BR><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, September 22, 2004
9:11 AM<BR><B>To:</B> <A class=moz-txt-link-abbreviated
href="mailto:sw-l@majordomo.valenciacc.edu">sw-l@majordomo.valenciacc.edu</A><BR><B>Subject:</B>
Re: [sw-l] Please test new SignMaker with Drag and
Drop<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>Stephen,<BR><BR>I noticed that Val managed to
insert a whole sign. I'm not exactly sure how she did that, I
couldn't find a way to do it just in the browser itself. That made
me wonder if there could be a way to drop in an existing sign in the
dictionary and then change it?<BR><BR>For that to be possible, each part
of the sign would need to be stored in the dictionary as part of the sign,
similarly to how each letter of a word is stored as part of the word in a
dictionary or other document. Is this
possible?<BR><BR>Bill<BR><BR><BR>Stephen Slevinski wrote:<BR>
<BLOCKQUOTE cite=midNAEOKJKHILHAJGBAFDIGCEAMCIAA.slevin@pudl.info
type="cite"><PRE wrap="">No major problems yet? Great to hear. It even works on the Mac? Awesome!
I am working on several additional features:
Delete individual signs
Fine tune movement
SignWriter controls: flip, rotate, ...
Then I'll install on SignBank and update the download.
-Stephen
-----Original Message-----
From: <A class=moz-txt-link-abbreviated href="mailto:owner-sw-l@majordomo.valenciacc.edu">owner-sw-l@majordomo.valenciacc.edu</A>
[<A class=moz-txt-link-freetext href="mailto:owner-sw-l@majordomo.valenciacc.edu">mailto:owner-sw-l@majordomo.valenciacc.edu</A>]On Behalf Of Valerie Sutton
Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2004 7:14 AM
To: <A class=moz-txt-link-abbreviated href="mailto:sw-l@majordomo.valenciacc.edu">sw-l@majordomo.valenciacc.edu</A>
Subject: Re: [sw-l] Please test new SignMaker with Drag and Drop
SignWriting List
September 22, 2004
Stephen Slevinski wrote:
</PRE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><PRE wrap="">You can test the new SignMaker at:
<A class=moz-txt-link-freetext href="http://www.oculog.net/puddle/create.php">http://www.oculog.net/puddle/create.php</A>
</PRE></BLOCKQUOTE><PRE wrap=""><!---->
Dear SW List, Stephen, Bill, Charles -
This is sooo cool. Really great design and quite impressive. Thank you,
Stephen.
Mac Safari Browser
I am now testing SignMaker drag and drop features on Safari, a browser
that was designed by the Mac for the Mac...It works well on Safari,
which is good, since most Mac users use Safari.
Take a look at the attached screen capture. I drag-dropped a whole
sign! The sign for THINK. But notice the 5-Hand down at the bottom.
That was a mistake and I wanted to clear that hand away...How do you
clear just one handshape, without clearing the whole sign?
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