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<DIV><SPAN class=951554518-08102004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Hi
Stuart,</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=951554518-08102004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=951554518-08102004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>I've
thought of writing such a library, but I am not sure of the
interest.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=951554518-08102004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=951554518-08102004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>There
is the broader topic of what is the best way to use SignWriting on
websites. There are several approaches we could use.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=951554518-08102004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=951554518-08102004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>HTML
Hardcode </FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=951554518-08102004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Send
yourself an SW email using the online images checkbox. Copy and paste the
HTML code.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=951554518-08102004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=951554518-08102004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>PHP
Function</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=951554518-08102004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>Requires PHP installed on server. This would be the
</FONT></SPAN><SPAN class=951554518-08102004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>translate function you describe. Pass the langauge and the
gloss. Should also pass the style (horizontal or verticle), or use two
functions.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=951554518-08102004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=951554518-08102004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Other
CGI</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=951554518-08102004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Same
as above, but in ASP or Perl or ...</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=951554518-08102004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=951554518-08102004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>Javascript</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=951554518-08102004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Create
a Javascript function that would generate the SignWriting. This would not
require any special installation on the server. This would require
Javascript on the client.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=951554518-08102004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=951554518-08102004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Gloss
vs SWML-S</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=951554518-08102004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Should
these functions accept gloss or use SWML-S?</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=951554518-08102004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>For
dictionary entries that were created with the new SignMaker, I can output
SWML-S. For the other sign entries I can not. The ASL dictionary
needs to be almost completely rewritten, over 3000 signs.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=951554518-08102004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=951554518-08102004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Gloss
can be used immediately, but SWML-S is the superior solution. SWML-S will
properly display verticle writing with the head in the center. (I can even
include lanes.)</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=951554518-08102004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=951554518-08102004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>SWML-S
can be built from the dictionary, but does not depend on the dictionary.
In a few months, I hope to have a working version of Movement Writer available
as a Java Applet that will output SWML-S. </FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=951554518-08102004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=951554518-08102004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>Anyway, there are many options, but what is needed and what will be
used? I'm willing to write the code, not because it is possible, but
because it will be used.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=951554518-08102004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=951554518-08102004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>Seriously, who needs what? Speak up and you may get
it.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=951554518-08102004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>-Stephen</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Tahoma
size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B>
owner-sw-l@majordomo.valenciacc.edu
[mailto:owner-sw-l@majordomo.valenciacc.edu]<B>On Behalf Of </B>Stuart
Thiessen<BR><B>Sent:</B> Friday, October 08, 2004 10:07 AM<BR><B>To:</B>
sw-l@majordomo.valenciacc.edu<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [sw-l]
SignPuddle<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>Stephen,<BR><BR>I wonder if you could write a
PHP function similar to your translate function that can embed the SignBank
dictionary locations (with the option of adding local dictionaries) and then
people can simply include that function on their page, and then reference it
with a <?php translate("sgn-US", "ME GO STORE."); ?> or whatever you
call it. Then the function can search the appropriate dictionaries both remote
and local and place the appropriate PNG's in that slot.<BR><BR>For those who
do not have access to PHP, maybe a CGI approach could be available for
them?<BR><BR>What do you think?<BR><BR>Stuart<BR><BR>Valerie Sutton wrote:
<BLOCKQUOTE cite=mid2306B398-192D-11D9-8F56-000A959F2614@signwriting.org
type="cite">SignWriting List <BR>October 8, 2004 <BR><BR>Sandy Fleming
wrote: <BR>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">This would be a very easy way to build webpages
with SignWriting without <BR>having to extract and store the images on my
own sever, but would this sort <BR>of behaviour be acceptable to you,
considering the load it would put on your <BR>server? It might be quite a
heavy load if people start using the Puddle <BR>dictionaries to compose
whole texts on their websites! <BR></BLOCKQUOTE><BR>Hello Sandy, Stephen and
Everyone! <BR>Congrats on entering the sign for Wales (smile). I extracted
the .png image from the htm file and here it is attached to this
message...Looks good! When you create a sign in SignMaker now, it creates
two kinds of files. One is a graphic image in .png format, and the other is
the one that holds the language information, called a .bld file (Stephen's
development)...So when I opened your htm file, I found the .png file for
Wales there, and I right-clicked on my mouse and downloaded it. Then I
attached the .png to this message. <BR><BR>Did you know that SignPuddle is
not on Stephen's server? We moved Sign Puddle to the SignBank site during
the summer which means it is on my server....not my server in my home...but
on DeafVision, where I pay an annual fee to host our SignBank site. And as
far as I know our memory is ok right now, so go right ahead, Sandy, and be
as creative as you wish! That was why we moved SignPuddle to SignBank, so we
would have a long-lasting, ongoing server for SignPuddle... Val ;-)
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