<DIV>I agree with your reasoning Sandy, though I have certainly written pen pals in SW shorthand and been understood, even with month's old letters. </DIV>
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<DIV>I used it as an established shortened handwriting, not a "quick, let me get this down for ten minutes until I can type it up."</DIV>
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<DIV>The final position of a sign, for me, is not necessary unless the hand shape changes to something unrelated, unexplained by a close or open dot or something similar. </DIV>
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<DIV>For beautiful, I certainly don't show the ending hand, as that would require 5 separate handshapes if one were to do the "snapshot" version of each ending position.</DIV>
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<DIV><IMG alt=linda-1 src="http://signbank.org/signpuddle/sgn-BR/dict/sl/linda-1.png" align=middle border=0>Charles<BR><BR><B><I>Sandy Fleming <sandy@FLEIMIN.DEMON.CO.UK></I></B> wrote:</DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE class=replbq style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid">Charles,<BR><BR>I have actually tried these half-arrowheads and rejected them as not<BR>readable. The trouble is that it _is_ a shorthand device. I write with<BR>Teeline Shorthand sometimes in English and the thing is that after a few<BR>weeks it's labourous to read my own shorthand because shorthand takes<BR>brevity to extremes on the understanding that the writer will get the<BR>shorthand transcribed into a computer while the context is still in his<BR>head. This is suitable for secretarial work and journalism or (in my case)<BR>writing stories away from the computer with a view to typing them in later,<BR>but it's not a proper handwriting system where you can write a letter for<BR>someone else to read.<BR><BR>One thing I find myself naturally doing is not writing the final position in<BR>a sign. The final position seems pointless if the handshape doesn't change<BR>since the
movement should indicate it. In many cases even when the handshape<BR>does change that's better expressed as a movement - opening/closing fingers<BR>and suchlike. This is why I often write the handshap change on the arrow -<BR>it shows that the change is executed during the movement. Is this getting<BR>too unconventional? It seems natural and clear to me.<BR><BR>What I was suggesting is just taking it a step further and allowing the<BR>reader's familiarity with the writing system to allow us to just write the<BR>first position in a sign. I believe that given the starting handshapes and<BR>head, many signs can be unambiguously recognised by a reader who knows the<BR>language. It might even be inevitable that people will eventually start<BR>using such signs in writing, ie "I've written the head and hand, why bother<BR>with the movement? What else could it mean?"<BR><BR>Of course, as I said, this wouldn't apply to directional verbs and<BR>classifiers, where the movement carrie!
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deal of the meaning.<BR><BR>A good word processor might even recognise such input and complete it<BR>automatically from its dictionary.<BR><BR>Sandy<BR><BR><BR>-----Original Message-----<BR>From: owner-sw-l@majordomo.valenciacc.edu<BR>[mailto:owner-sw-l@majordomo.valenciacc.edu]On Behalf Of Charles Butler<BR>Sent: 20 October 2004 13:10<BR>To: sw-l@majordomo.valenciacc.edu<BR>Subject: RE: [sw-l] BSL Reading Test :)<BR><BR><BR>Omitting a movement may not be necessary if you adopt the shorthand written<BR>system (see gif). It's certainly faster.<BR><BR><BR></BLOCKQUOTE>