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<p class=MsoNormal><span class=EmailFormatvorlage15><font size=2 color=navy
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:12.0pt;font-family:
Arial'>Hi Jerry, <o:p></o:p></span></font></span></p>
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face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:12.0pt;
font-family:Arial;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'>I agree very much! <o:p></o:p></span></font></span></p>
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face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:12.0pt;
font-family:Arial;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'>Stefan ;-))<o:p></o:p></span></font></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><font size=2 color="#330033"
face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>-----Ursprüngliche
Nachricht-----<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Von:</span></b>
owner-sw-l@majordomo.valenciacc.edu
[mailto:owner-sw-l@majordomo.valenciacc.edu]<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Im
Auftrag von </span></b>Jerry Spillman<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Gesendet:</span></b> Mittwoch, 20. </span></font><font
size=2 face=Tahoma><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;
mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'>Oktober 2004 01:55<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>An:</span></b> SignWriting List<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Betreff:</span></b> [sw-l] obscenities, etc.</span></font><span
lang=EN-GB style='mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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face="Times New Roman"><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:
"Times New Roman";mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'>Dear Valerie and List,<br>
<br>
As this is a forum, I must put in my two cents worth. I will maintain my
websites as family-oriented material, and without obscene expression as much as
possible. Just because a language contains obscenity, as all languages
do, there is seldom necessity to put it to use. There are signs for sex
in it's numerous uses as a word, and there are signs for obscenities which
roughly express the same thoughts in a less gentle manner. I think the
point of the discussion is not whether such terminology should exist, but
whether it should become a standard of expression. Vulgarity, for example, is
merely the word meaning "the common talk". However, in my
upbringing, it was not polite to speak in a vulgar manner in the general
company of ladies and gentlemen. I also understand that in some settings
and with some people's culture, what may seem vulgar to "polite
company" is common fare amongst them. And as long as it stays within
that culture, people are welcome to "have at it". </span></font><span
lang=EN-GB style='mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'><br>
</span><font face="Times New Roman"><span lang=EN-GB style='font-family:"Times New Roman";
mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'><br>
As educators and public servants, many of us elect to refrain from such
language because it can be and usually is offensive to SOMEONE who might be
present. This varies with culture. What is OK to express in Denver,
Colorado is, in many instances, absolutely NOT OK in Salt Lake City, Utah. <br>
<br>
Let us persevere to produce language that is acceptable to all who would hear
it, and know what the vulgarities are so that we can avoid their use in
"polite company". I think in this light, that there is a place
for such words in a general dictionary; however, this would mandate that
certain abridgement take place before providing that dictionary for children's
use. Considering this, perhaps a separate dictionary of vulgarity and obscenity
would serve the general good in a better fashion than placing all signs, no
matter what, inside the SAME work. It would be similar to a friend of mine who
teaches technical and mathematical terminology to deaf students providing just
those students who will use such signs with them, rather than confusing the
average person with "useless" vocabulary. <br>
<br>
I pray that in our processes of developing and defining language, that we
learn to communicate decently and in good order while dealing and expressing
ourselves publicly. Please consider these things as you develop your
dictionaries and write rules for editing.<br>
<br>
Jerry Spillman<br>
Webmaster, Cyberjer.com</span></font><span lang=EN-GB style='mso-ansi-language:
EN-GB'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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