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<DIV><SPAN class=474002821-07122004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Hi
Charles,</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV><SPAN class=474002821-07122004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>I
fixed Carmen-Miranda-3. Not sure what went wrong.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV><SPAN class=474002821-07122004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>-Stephen</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Tahoma
size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B>
owner-sw-l@majordomo.valenciacc.edu
[mailto:owner-sw-l@majordomo.valenciacc.edu]<B>On Behalf Of </B>Charles
Butler<BR><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, December 07, 2004 3:52 PM<BR><B>To:</B>
sw-l@majordomo.valenciacc.edu<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [sw-l] Stuarts Question
about Curved Arrows...<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV>In my horizontal writing, it is actually why I showed the shoulder and
hip lines separately from the arms, to get a feel for lanes without vertical
writing. That way the hands and presumably the rest of the body is
shifted over with the head staying to one side. I really need to refine
that sign more as it's more of the hip and shoulder sag than a head sag or
shift. Signing it to myself the head stays more or less vertical, it's
the shoulders that that tilt and sway. I'll be glad when the full arms
are in the SignPuddle. I don't seem to be able to rotate the shoulders
either.</DIV>
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<DIV>It's certainly a challenge to write.</DIV>
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<P><IMG
src="http://signbank.org/signpuddle/sgn-BR/image.php?build=01-05-001-01-02-09,17,25,06-01-002-01-02-01,8,46,01-05-001-01-06-03,9,75,03-02-002-01-01-02,46,-2,05-04-002-01-02-02,52,31,05-04-002-01-02-06,54,148,06-01-002-01-02-05,108,159,01-05-001-01-02-01,96,142,01-05-001-01-06-11,124,187,03-02-003-01-01-01,50,105,05-05-001-01-02-06,58,72,05-05-001-01-02-02,60,181,&sign=Carmen-Miranda-1"
border=1 NOSEND="1"><IMG alt=Carmen-Miranda-3
src="http://signbank.org/signpuddle/sgn-BR/dict/sl/Carmen-Miranda-3.png"
align=middle border=0 NOSEND="1">This is stray.</P>
<P>I can't seem to get rid of this extra hip sway as it is not in the "sign
window in sign puddle. Can Steve help? This is Carmen Miranda 3 in
the Brazilian Sign Language dictionary. I bring it up in edit, but can't
see that extra hip in the construction window to delete it.</P>
<P> Charles</P></DIV>
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<DIV>Charles</DIV>
<DIV><BR><BR><B><I>Valerie Sutton <sutton@signwriting.org></I></B>
wrote:</DIV>
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style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid">SignWriting
List<BR>December 7, 2004<BR><BR>Charles Butler wrote:<BR>> The last one,
in Valerie's list, is what i was trying to write using <BR>> my ancient
version of SW 4.0. Only in vertical writing can you show <BR>> the
"neutral position" flowing into the "over the shoulder" position <BR>>
without confusion. I like that.<BR><BR>Thank you, Charles, and
yes...vertical writing is wonderful! I love <BR>it...<BR><BR>In regards to
your question about the Carmen Miranda signs...your <BR>writing confuses me
a little. The only way I could see if you were <BR>doing body-weight-shifts
in real SignLanes, is if you placed the <BR>different signs in vertical
columns. Then I can see the head moving <BR>over into SignLane Left or
Right...so the vertical columns give us <BR>quick and accurate reading of
weight shifts that move the head off <BR>center... Val
;-)<BR><BR><BR><BR></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>