<DIV>Hi Val and Stuart,</DIV>
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<DIV>The last one, in Valerie's list, is what i was trying to write using my ancient version of SW 4.0. Only in vertical writing can you show the "neutral position" flowing into the "over the shoulder" position without confusion. I like that. </DIV>
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<DIV>Charles Butler</DIV>
<DIV><BR><BR><B><I>Valerie Sutton <sutton@signwriting.org></I></B> wrote:</DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE class=replbq style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid">SignWriting List<BR>December 7, 2004<BR><BR>Stuart Thiessen wrote:<BR>> How do others handle this? My example situation is the sign for <BR>> BEFORE in ASL that I am transcribing from a video. It starts in <BR>> neutral space with the left hand mostly face down and the back of the <BR>> right hand contacting the back of the left hand and then moving in a <BR>> backward arc over the shoulder and a little past the shoulder. I am <BR>> trying to figure out how to show the right hand beginning in a palm <BR>> face-up orientation then ending in a palm facing the body orientation. <BR>> Plus there is the question of how to show that it leaves neutral space <BR>> to go over the shoulder.<BR><BR>Hello Stuart and Everyone -<BR>It is not an easy sign, but it can be written. Attached are some of the <BR>different signs for BEFORE in our ASL dictionary in SignW!
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<BR>Java...the last one is a new one that I just typed in SignWriter Java, <BR>trying to follow your description, Stuart...<BR><BR>Is this close to what you want? I think we can find a simpler way to <BR>write it later, but for right now, can you read it?<BR><BR><BR><BR><BR>> ATTACHMENT part 2 image/gif name=curved-arrows8.gif; x-mac-type=47494666; x-unix-mode=0644; x-mac-creator=3842494D<BR></BLOCKQUOTE>