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<DIV><SPAN class=266060223-15122004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Hi
Charles,</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=266060223-15122004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=266060223-15122004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Yes,
that is a defect with SignMaker. If you delete a symbol, that change will
not register until after you do something else, like add a symbol, move a
symbol, or use a special command. To work around this defect, I deleted
the wrong head then moved one of the other symbols. I will fix this defect
shortly.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=266060223-15122004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=266060223-15122004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>In the
meantme, I fixed the sign baron.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=266060223-15122004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>-Stephen</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Tahoma
size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B>
owner-sw-l@majordomo.valenciacc.edu
[mailto:owner-sw-l@majordomo.valenciacc.edu]<B>On Behalf Of </B>Charles
Butler<BR><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, December 15, 2004 5:56 PM<BR><B>To:</B>
sw-l@majordomo.valenciacc.edu<BR><B>Subject:</B> [sw-l] RE: SCA
Signs<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV>Hi Stephen,</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>There still seems to be a glitch. While trying to create the sign
"baron", i originally had placed a second head lower down to show the movement
of the hand from the center of the head to the left of the head. </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>I edited it out before I saved the sign (meaning it disappeared from the
sign box) but when I saved it, the second head was still there. </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>I then tried going into Edit mode, and took it out again, but AGAIN, it
still appeared. </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Is there a glitch? Charles</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><BR><BR><B><I>Stephen Slevinski <slevinski@signwriting.org></I></B>
wrote:</DIV>
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<DIV><SPAN class=377292120-14122004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>Oops. Sorry about that. It's fixed and
tested.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Tahoma
size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B>
owner-sw-l@majordomo.valenciacc.edu
[mailto:owner-sw-l@majordomo.valenciacc.edu]<B>On Behalf Of </B>Charles
Butler<BR><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, December 14, 2004 3:07 PM<BR><B>To:</B>
sw-l@majordomo.valenciacc.edu<BR><B>Subject:</B> RE: [sw-l] BELGIUM: 2 new
flag-icons<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV>Thank you Stephen, I tried to create and save a sign. I could
create it, and it got all the way to writing the name, definition, and
source, but when I tried to save after that, it said, "not valid" or
something similar. There seems to be a glitch at that point.
It then said that there were still no signs in the dictionary so I don't
know what happened.</DIV>
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<DIV>Charles - THANK YOU!<BR><BR><B><I>Stephen Slevinski
<slevinski@signwriting.org></I></B> wrote:</DIV>
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<DIV><SPAN class=383313815-14122004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>Hi Charles,</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=383313815-14122004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=383313815-14122004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>If you want an SCA SignPuddle, I've created one for you on
Oculog.net: <A
href="http://www.oculog.net/signpuddle/SCA">http://www.oculog.net/signpuddle/SCA</A>.
If anyone else wants a SignPuddle to play around in, let me know.
</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=383313815-14122004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=383313815-14122004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>I have also created a SignPuddle for testing: <A
href="http://www.oculog.net/signpuddle/test">http://www.oculog.net/signpuddle/test</A>.
Username: test Password: test. </FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=383313815-14122004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>-Stephen</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B>
owner-sw-l@majordomo.valenciacc.edu
[mailto:owner-sw-l@majordomo.valenciacc.edu]<B>On Behalf Of
</B>Charles Butler<BR><B>Sent:</B> Monday, December 13, 2004 11:29
AM<BR><B>To:</B> sw-l@majordomo.valenciacc.edu<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re:
[sw-l] BELGIUM: 2 new flag-icons<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV>Looking at your Flemish & Walloon sections brings up an
interesting use of Sign Language, that of the Society for Creative
Anachronism. The SCA is a medievalist recreationist group that
uses ASL and some signs from other languages in a medieval court
setting. One of the areas that is most useful to us is in "name
signs" for specific groups. These are based, whenever possible,
on the heraldry of the group, so, for example, An Tir is a lion
rampant, which would be ASL [Lion + claw forward], Trimaris is [3 +
water + waves]. Would it be possible to get an SCA SignPuddle
section set up so that we can load this set of "special interest
signs" into it? </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Charles Butlre</DIV>
<DIV><BR><BR><B><I>Valerie Sutton
<sutton@signwriting.org></I></B> wrote:</DIV>
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List<BR>December 13, 2004<BR><BR>Kasterlinden Bilinguaal School in
Belgium wrote:<BR>> I worked with the kids in the signpuddle
today. We saw that a lot of <BR>> changes were made. Looks
great!! ;) A Flemish flag, yes yes! The <BR>> children asked me
were Belgium disappeared to ;)<BR><BR>Hello List, and Kathleen and
Flemish children!<BR><BR>Ha! yes. I did as you suggested, Kathleen,
and divided Belgium into the <BR>two Sign Language regions, Flemish
and Walloon. Please see attached <BR>diagram for the icons for the
two areas...I hope this is what you <BR>wanted? The Walloon
dictionary does not go anywhere right now if you <BR>click on the
icon, but in time it will...And I used the sign for <BR>Belgium for
the Walloon dictionary until I find out what their sign is <BR>for
their regional area of Belgium...<BR><BR>Plus...Kathleen...did I
choose the correct s! ! ! ign for Flanders? Notice <BR>how following
the SignSpelling rules, the arrow is underneath the first
<BR>handshape. I can explain that rule again, if you need it for
your <BR>students:<BR><BR><BR><BR><BR>> ATTACHMENT part 2
image/jpeg name=Belgium.jpg; x-mac-type=4A504547; x-unix-mode=0644;
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