<DIV>Well, at least I know what to do now. I can only put on signs at work or at the library (where there's a faster computer), my home computer is Windows 98 and is as slow as molasses (and it's not even January yet).</DIV>
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<DIV>(smile) Charles</DIV>
<DIV><BR><BR><B><I>Stephen Slevinski <slevinski@signwriting.org></I></B> wrote:</DIV>
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<DIV><SPAN class=266060223-15122004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Hi Charles,</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV><SPAN class=266060223-15122004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Yes, that is a defect with SignMaker. If you delete a symbol, that change will not register until after you do something else, like add a symbol, move a symbol, or use a special command. To work around this defect, I deleted the wrong head then moved one of the other symbols. I will fix this defect shortly.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV><SPAN class=266060223-15122004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>In the meantme, I fixed the sign baron.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV><SPAN class=266060223-15122004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>-Stephen</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Tahoma size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> owner-sw-l@majordomo.valenciacc.edu [mailto:owner-sw-l@majordomo.valenciacc.edu]<B>On Behalf Of </B>Charles Butler<BR><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, December 15, 2004 5:56 PM<BR><B>To:</B> sw-l@majordomo.valenciacc.edu<BR><B>Subject:</B> [sw-l] RE: SCA Signs<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV>Hi Stephen,</DIV>
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<DIV>There still seems to be a glitch. While trying to create the sign "baron", i originally had placed a second head lower down to show the movement of the hand from the center of the head to the left of the head. </DIV>
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<DIV>I edited it out before I saved the sign (meaning it disappeared from the sign box) but when I saved it, the second head was still there. </DIV>
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<DIV>I then tried going into Edit mode, and took it out again, but AGAIN, it still appeared. </DIV>
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<DIV>Is there a glitch? Charles</DIV>
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<DIV><BR><BR><B><I>Stephen Slevinski <slevinski@signwriting.org></I></B> wrote:</DIV>
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<DIV><SPAN class=377292120-14122004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Oops. Sorry about that. It's fixed and tested.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Tahoma size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> owner-sw-l@majordomo.valenciacc.edu [mailto:owner-sw-l@majordomo.valenciacc.edu]<B>On Behalf Of </B>Charles Butler<BR><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, December 14, 2004 3:07 PM<BR><B>To:</B> sw-l@majordomo.valenciacc.edu<BR><B>Subject:</B> RE: [sw-l] BELGIUM: 2 new flag-icons<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV>Thank you Stephen, I tried to create and save a sign. I could create it, and it got all the way to writing the name, definition, and source, but when I tried to save after that, it said, "not valid" or something similar. There seems to be a glitch at that point. It then said that there were still no signs in the dictionary so I don't know what happened.</DIV>
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<DIV>Charles - THANK YOU!<BR><BR><B><I>Stephen Slevinski <slevinski@signwriting.org></I></B> wrote:</DIV>
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<DIV><SPAN class=383313815-14122004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Hi Charles,</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV><SPAN class=383313815-14122004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>If you want an SCA SignPuddle, I've created one for you on Oculog.net: <A href="http://www.oculog.net/signpuddle/SCA">http://www.oculog.net/signpuddle/SCA</A>. If anyone else wants a SignPuddle to play around in, let me know. </FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV><SPAN class=383313815-14122004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>I have also created a SignPuddle for testing: <A href="http://www.oculog.net/signpuddle/test">http://www.oculog.net/signpuddle/test</A>. Username: test Password: test. </FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV><SPAN class=383313815-14122004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>-Stephen</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV>Looking at your Flemish & Walloon sections brings up an interesting use of Sign Language, that of the Society for Creative Anachronism. The SCA is a medievalist recreationist group that uses ASL and some signs from other languages in a medieval court setting. One of the areas that is most useful to us is in "name signs" for specific groups. These are based, whenever possible, on the heraldry of the group, so, for example, An Tir is a lion rampant, which would be ASL [Lion + claw forward], Trimaris is [3 + water + waves]. Would it be possible to get an SCA SignPuddle section set up so that we can load this set of "special interest signs" into it? </DIV>
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<DIV>Charles Butlre</DIV>
<DIV><BR><BR><B><I>Valerie Sutton <sutton@signwriting.org></I></B> wrote:</DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE class=replbq style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid">SignWriting List<BR>December 13, 2004<BR><BR>Kasterlinden Bilinguaal School in Belgium wrote:<BR>> I worked with the kids in the signpuddle today. We saw that a lot of <BR>> changes were made. Looks great!! ;) A Flemish flag, yes yes! The <BR>> children asked me were Belgium disappeared to ;)<BR><BR>Hello List, and Kathleen and Flemish children!<BR><BR>Ha! yes. I did as you suggested, Kathleen, and divided Belgium into the <BR>two Sign Language regions, Flemish and Walloon. Please see attached <BR>diagram for the icons for the two areas...I hope this is what you <BR>wanted? The Walloon dictionary does not go anywhere right now if you <BR>click on the icon, but in time it will...And I used the sign for <BR>Belgium for the Walloon dictionary until I find out what their sign is <BR>for their regional area of Belgium...<BR><BR>Plus...Kathleen...did I choose the correct s!
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