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<DIV><SPAN class=421330611-23012005><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Hello
Lucyna and welcome to our List !!!! </FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=421330611-23012005><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>So you
are able to read German documents? That would allow you to have direct access to
many of my documents that are posted on my homepage </FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=421330611-23012005><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=421330611-23012005><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><A
href="http://www.gebaerdenschrift.de">www.gebaerdenschrift.de</A>
</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=421330611-23012005><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Ha -
the question about using so many different systems is a difficult one -
</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=421330611-23012005><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=421330611-23012005><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>I had
to learn that there are many different interests involved in teaching or
supporting deaf children from hearing background. </FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=421330611-23012005><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=421330611-23012005><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>So you
never can say from outside - without having a close look at the biographical and
social background what kind of teaching concept is adequat, successful, ...
</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=421330611-23012005><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=421330611-23012005><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>...and
there is a conflict - constantly - how much time should be given to articulation
and how important is the focus on SL competence</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=421330611-23012005><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=421330611-23012005><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>From
my 10 students 10 - 16 years old - there is only one child from a German
speaking family - all others experience a foreign language at
home.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=421330611-23012005><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=421330611-23012005><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>None
of the parents achieved minimal SL - competence - so they are not able to
comunicate with their child ... And whenever I try to explain the importance of
SL they express their difficulties and many reasons -</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=421330611-23012005><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=421330611-23012005><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>Nevertheless - we achieved now a level of SL competence - DGS ( that
means voiceless but moving the lips a lot - just as the DEAF German sign - )
</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=421330611-23012005><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>This
kind of comunication does n o t follow the grammar of the spoken
Language - </FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=421330611-23012005><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=421330611-23012005><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>But
now you see the advantage of SignWriting or GebaerdenSchrift - as we call
it here - With the support of lots and lots of written documents the
students understand better and better that they have to decide - spoken language
( signing word by word with or without loud speaking) or pure DGS - following
the rules of the SL without voicing any word ... </FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=421330611-23012005><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=421330611-23012005><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>It is
wonderful to watch the students how easy and competent they identify the
difference between these two types of documents. They larn to "read" DGS-written
texts but translate and speak at the same moment in perfect Grammar ! ( Of
course not all of them - and there are still steps to go. But all of them
improved tremendously by the use of Valerie Suttons wonderful invention!!
</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=421330611-23012005><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=421330611-23012005><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>More
questions?? </FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=421330611-23012005><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=421330611-23012005><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Have a
super day!</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=421330611-23012005><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=421330611-23012005><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Stefan
;-) </FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
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<DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Tahoma
size=2>-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----<BR><B>Von:</B>
owner-sw-l@majordomo.valenciacc.edu
[mailto:owner-sw-l@majordomo.valenciacc.edu]<B>Im Auftrag von </B>Lucyna
Dlugolecka<BR><B>Gesendet:</B> Sonntag, 23. Januar 2005 10:54<BR><B>An:</B>
sw-l@majordomo.valenciacc.edu<BR><B>Betreff:</B> Re: [sw-l] GERMANY...Article
published on SignWriting Jan 23, 2005<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>Yeah, congratulations, Stefan! I have just read the article.
I like it. I would like to ascertain of that your Deaf students speak German
and use German Sign Langauge at the same time? Or they just vocalize some
words and some not? Do you speak and sign at the same time? Aren't there big
differences between grammars of these languages?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>Lucyna</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
<DIV
style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=sutton@signwriting.org href="mailto:sutton@signwriting.org">Valerie
Sutton</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A
title=SW-L@majordomo.valenciacc.edu
href="mailto:SW-L@majordomo.valenciacc.edu">SIGNWRITING List</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, January 23, 2005 4:16
AM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> [sw-l] GERMANY...Article
published on SignWriting Jan 23, 2005</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>SignWriting List<BR>January 23, 2005<BR><BR>Congratulations
to Stefan!!<BR><BR>IN GERMANY....<BR>ARTICLE PUBLISHED ABOUT SIGNWRITING
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