<DIV>Query for you Stefan,</DIV>
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<DIV>On the issue of speed of reading, I can understand your student's frustration. On the issue of speed of writing, in comparison to spoken languages, do you have a comparison in terms of "fresh utterance" as to how quickly a student can take a sign, and quickly write it, if one must include mouth movements at all stages. Posture, facial expression, and speed are all important, to some degree, I'm just thinking in terms of "long-term writing process" how multiple heads attached to a single movement actually speeds up the process of "writing" as opposed to "reading." </DIV>
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<DIV>Over centuries, readers of spoken utterances reduced to writing learned to write the bare minimum necessary for reproduction of speech by orthography. </DIV>
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<DIV>I am curious if German Sign Language requires mouth movements, or if, like <BR>Cued Speech as opposed to ASL, they are a part of a Total Communication system as opposed to a language not based on voice, but hands.</DIV>
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<DIV>A query.</DIV>
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<DIV>Charles Butler</DIV>
<DIV><BR><BR><B><I>Stefan Wohrmann <stefanwoehrmann@GEBAERDENSCHRIFT.DE></I></B> wrote:</DIV>
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<DIV><SPAN class=968584315-26012005><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Hi Valerie, </FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV><SPAN class=968584315-26012005><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Here is my spelling for the performance in the video - Sign for Prag - </FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=968584315-26012005><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Without the mouth movements me and my students would not have any chance to translate the sign - this caused in the past a lot of frustration on both sides ( smile) - </FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=968584315-26012005><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Since I add the Mundbilder - it is very often no problem as long as these proper names are introduced ... </FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV><SPAN class=968584315-26012005><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Stefan ;-) </FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Tahoma size=2>-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----<BR><B>Von:</B> owner-sw-l@majordomo.valenciacc.edu [mailto:owner-sw-l@majordomo.valenciacc.edu]<B>Im Auftrag von </B>Valerie Sutton<BR><B>Gesendet:</B> Mittwoch, 26. Januar 2005 01:19<BR><B>An:</B> sw-l@majordomo.valenciacc.edu<BR><B>Betreff:</B> [sw-l] SignSpelling Rules and Guidelines<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>SignWriting List<BR>January 25, 2005<BR><BR>Stefan Wohrmann wrote:<BR>
<BLOCKQUOTE><?fontfamily><?param Arial><?color><?param 0000,0000,FFFF><?smaller><?x-tad-smaller>and what is the mouth doing ??<?/x-tad-smaller><?/smaller><?/color><?/fontfamily></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE><BR><?fontfamily><?param Arial><?color><?param 0000,0000,FFFF><?smaller><?x-tad-smaller>Stefan ;-)<BR><?/x-tad-smaller><?/smaller><?/color><?/fontfamily></BLOCKQUOTE><BR>That is a good question ;-)<BR><BR>Why don't you write the mouth movements for us...smile...go to the Flemish Online Dictionary to view the video:<BR><BR>Sign for Praag<BR>http://gebaren.ugent.be/alfabet.php?id=18435<BR><BR>The first lady's mouth movements are quite obvious...;-)<BR><BR>Val ;-)<BR></BLOCKQUOTE><BR><BR>> ATTACHMENT part 2 image/gif name=Prag.gif<BR></BLOCKQUOTE>