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owner-sw-l@majordomo.valenciacc.edu
[mailto:owner-sw-l@majordomo.valenciacc.edu] <b><span style='font-weight:bold'>On
Behalf Of </span></b>Valerie Sutton<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> 27 January 2005 18:01<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> sw-l@majordomo.valenciacc.edu<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> [sw-l] Writing Mouth
Movements in Different Cultures</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>SignWriting List<br>
January 27, 2005<br>
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Stefan Wohrmann wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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12.0pt'><?fontfamily><?param Arial><?color><?param 0000,0000,FFFE><?smaller><?x-tad-smaller>I
use SW as a tool to support deaf children in their efforts to learn German....<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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to your other question - if I understand that right - well all I can tell is
that in German Sign Language the mouthmovements are a very important part.<br>
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Dear SW List and Stefan and Charles -<br>
Thank you Stefan for your interesting discussion...SignWriting is used in
different ways for different purposes. A lot of these issues are cultural, and
also related to the purpose of the document you are writing...<br>
<br>
I know, Stefan, you told us once that when you are writing true German Sign
Language (DGS), that is signed by Deaf adults in the German Deaf Community (not
related to children or teaching spoken German)...that you also write the
specific facial expressions needed to write the grammar of true DGS...and that
some of those facial expressions are not exactly the same as mouthing German
words...So I know you have experienced this too...<br>
<br>
So we are talking about two different worlds...the world of a teacher with Deaf
students, and the world of Deaf poetry and literature that is not connected in
any way to the spoken language of the country...<br>
<br>
Or perhaps it is in Germany, but not in the US...so that is why Charles asked
the question...because as Americans we have had different experiences...Plus
neither Charles nor I are teachers of young Deaf children...<br>
<br>
We all would write differently in different cultures and that is perfectly ok!
SignWriting is flexible enough to meet everyone's needs...<br>
<br>
Here in the US there is not as much mouthing as you have in Northern
Europe...so each culture is different...I am curious what it is like in the
Philippines, or in Malaysia or even other European countries? I suspect facial
expressions vary widely...depending on the surrounding circumstances...<br>
<br>
And meanwhile, Stefan, I commend you for creating a bridge for the German
parents of Deaf children into the world of signed languages...and giving a
bridge to the Deaf students into the world of spoken languages...That is a true
gift! And your Mundbildschrift is really working in Germany. I suspect it would
not in the US...but you never know...it has not been tried yet! smile... Val
;-)<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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