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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Hello Vallerie,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I have been thinking about the name: Canadian
English Sign Language. I agree with you , Shane and Charles that that title is
wrong and I am glad to be made attend on that.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>How about "written in English word order" would
that be close to what I have done?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Thanks for your time,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Tini.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
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style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=sutton@signwriting.org href="mailto:sutton@signwriting.org">Valerie
Sutton</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A
title=sw-l@majordomo.valenciacc.edu
href="mailto:sw-l@majordomo.valenciacc.edu">sw-l@majordomo.valenciacc.edu</A>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, January 30, 2005 6:43
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [sw-l] poem</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>SignWriting List<BR>January 30, 2005<BR><BR>Tini and Jerry - A
suggestion, only if you have time....I know it is extra work<BR><BR>Can you
change the name Canadian English Sign Language on your web pages, to be Signed
English, which means that ASL signs are placed in English word order?...That
would be more correct, as Shane so beautifully explained...Thank you, Shane,
for your good explanation...<BR><BR>Val
;-)<BR><BR>--------------------------<BR><BR><BR><BR>On Jan 30, 2005, at 12:03
PM, Tini Pel wrote:<BR><BR>
<BLOCKQUOTE><?fontfamily><?param Arial><?smaller><?x-tad-smaller>Hello
Valerie,<?/x-tad-smaller><?/smaller><?/fontfamily></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <BR><?fontfamily><?param Arial><?smaller><?x-tad-smaller>Thank
you for the compliments and mentioning on the list about the poem.
It has been a long time since I did Sign Writing a poem. It made me sit with
my dictionary again, which was a very good exercise.<?/x-tad-smaller><?/smaller><?/fontfamily></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE><BR><?fontfamily><?param Arial><?smaller><?x-tad-smaller>I am
still working on your family poem off and on. But I will eventually get it.<?/x-tad-smaller><?/smaller><?/fontfamily></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <BR><?fontfamily><?param Arial><?smaller><?x-tad-smaller>You
wrote:<?/x-tad-smaller><?/smaller><?/fontfamily></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE><BR>I have a question about your term CESL...for
Canadian-English-Sign-Language...That is usually called ASL, is it not? Or
is CESL a separate and unique Sign Language? I never heard that term
before...<BR> <BR> <BR><?fontfamily><?param Arial><?smaller><?x-tad-smaller>The
reason I said Canadian English. Over the years I have noticed that ESL from
England at times, is slightly different, as is the Quebec French with
the French from France<?/x-tad-smaller><?/smaller><?/fontfamily></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE><BR><?fontfamily><?param Arial><?smaller><?x-tad-smaller>I have
been working together with a deaf person who was at Bellville . You may
remember me talking about him. He use to correct me often by saying
that a certain word in ASL was different from his language and at times
became upset about it. Ofcourse I was taking lessons from him so I had to
follow his language.<?/x-tad-smaller><?/smaller><?/fontfamily></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE><BR><?fontfamily><?param Arial><?smaller><?x-tad-smaller>I am
also working with a group of school teachers. Since deaf children are now
schooled in the elementary schools, the teachers want to learn
to sign in English for the purpose of the children to learn
to read. They don't want ASL because of the grammar.<?/x-tad-smaller><?/smaller><?/fontfamily></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE><BR><?fontfamily><?param Arial><?smaller><?x-tad-smaller>I had
them read the poem and they loved it.<?/x-tad-smaller><?/smaller><?/fontfamily></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE><BR><?fontfamily><?param Arial><?smaller><?x-tad-smaller>I did
not know what else to call it, so therefore Canadian English. If I am
wrong I am open for corrections. Please do so.<?/x-tad-smaller><?/smaller><?/fontfamily></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <BR><?fontfamily><?param Arial><?smaller><?x-tad-smaller>I
have been following your latest lessons and printed them all out, so
when I have time over week-ends I will try it out.<?/x-tad-smaller><?/smaller><?/fontfamily></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE><BR><?fontfamily><?param Arial><?smaller><?x-tad-smaller>Thank
you so much for that
!!!!!<?/x-tad-smaller><?/smaller><?/fontfamily></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE><BR><?fontfamily><?param Arial><?smaller><?x-tad-smaller>L.I.F.E.<?/x-tad-smaller><?/smaller><?/fontfamily></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE><BR><?fontfamily><?param Arial><?smaller><?x-tad-smaller>Tini.<?/x-tad-smaller><?/smaller><?/fontfamily></BLOCKQUOTE>
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