<HTML><BODY style="word-wrap: break-word; -khtml-nbsp-mode: space; -khtml-line-break: after-white-space; ">SignWriting List<DIV>June 1, 2005</DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>Hello Everyone!</DIV><DIV>To delete signs, you need to become an editor. Sooo...I just invited you to become an Editor. You will receive an email message with a link. Click on the link to establish your password. Once you have a password, you can delete signs...</DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>Whenever you want to change the dictionary, click on the Dictionary Editors icon. Login with your password at the bottom of the screen and then start editing!</DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>If you have any problems, just write again -</DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>Val ;-)</DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>-------------------------</DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV><BR><DIV><DIV>On Jun 1, 2005, at 8:51 PM, Antony Daamen wrote:</DIV><BR class="Apple-interchange-newline"><BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"> <TABLE id="INCREDIMAINTABLE" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="2" width="100%" border="0"> <TBODY><TR><TD id="INCREDITEXTREGION" style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 0px; FONT-SIZE: 12pt; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0px; CURSOR: auto; PADDING-TOP: 0px" valign="top" width="100%"> <DIV>HI val, stefan and others!</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Thank you for your many answers.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Stefan I sign Australia your way, up-down-forward, but if I want to emphasize or other reason I also make a full circle with my hands before I let go of my middle finger as I go down with my hand.... does that make sense? </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Lucina the black line it "the body" of the signer as seen from the top. </DIV> <DIV>Stefan I notice that you draw the sign from the top? why that way? will readers of the sign realise it is from the top? Later I will practice more.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>so the way I show the sign is ok? I have the feeling I show my hands for a start in a unnatural way. Like sideways in front of my chest. then I wasnt't sure of the arrows. The hands don't go diagonal-forward, but 90 degrees from the chest, paralell from one another.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Nevermind, my first try! how do I delete signs? I made two signs for Australia, and want one to be removed.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>next I will have another go at "how-are-you"! Then again I better practice with just one handshape signs first....</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Antony</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV id="IncrediOriginalMessage"><I>-------Original Message-------</I></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV id="receivestrings"> <DIV dir="ltr" style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt"><I><B>From:</B></I> <A href="mailto:sutton@signwriting.org">Valerie Sutton</A></DIV> <DIV dir="ltr" style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt"><I><B>Date:</B></I> 06/02/05 03:28:25</DIV> <DIV dir="ltr" style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt"><I><B>To:</B></I> <A href="mailto:sw-l@majordomo.valenciacc.edu">sw-l@majordomo.valenciacc.edu</A></DIV> <DIV dir="ltr" style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt"><I><B>Subject:</B></I> [sw-l] AUSTRALIA Sign for Australia</DIV></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>SignWriting List</DIV> <DIV>June 1, 2005</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Stefan Wöhrmann wrote:</DIV> <DIV>> thanks for this lesson -</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Ha! It was not a lesson. I just wrote the sign that Antony showed us</DIV> <DIV>on this web site:</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><A href="http://www.auslan.org.au/index.cfm?">http://www.auslan.org.au/index.cfm?</A></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Go there and search for the sign Australia. The sign on that video</DIV> <DIV>does a circle, and then a flick down. I personally do not know the</DIV> <DIV>sign. I was only trying to write what I saw on the video clip...I can</DIV> <DIV>imagine there could be many ways to write the exact same sign...</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>> I looked at my dictionary - to compare my spelling -</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I bet you have a different sign!</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>></DIV> <DIV>> I did not look at the video - so it might not go along with that -</DIV> <DIV>> On the other hand I saw deaf people signing "Australia" here in</DIV> <DIV>> Germany</DIV> <DIV>> with kind of up - forward - down movement -</DIV> <DIV>> I am curious - and anxious to improve my reading skills -</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>There is nothing to be anxious about. We have to make sure that we</DIV> <DIV>are looking at the same sign first! So go to the web page above, and</DIV> <DIV>look at their video...</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>></DIV> <DIV>> I interpret your spelling as if you do a "complete" circle movement</DIV> <DIV>> first</DIV> <DIV>> and afterwards move your hands down with flicking open the hand -</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>That is exactly what i saw on the video, but maybe you see the video</DIV> <DIV>differently?...take a look and then write again...</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>></DIV> <DIV>></DIV> <DIV>> I think that this doubled information (flick - symbol) and</DIV> <DIV>> presentation of</DIV> <DIV>> the handshape in the final position is ok - but not necessary -</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I don't know their sign...I was just writing what I thought I saw...</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>></DIV> <DIV>></DIV> <DIV>> Especially at school and for documents written for children I got</DIV> <DIV>> used to</DIV> <DIV>> our "rule" (smile) just write as few symbols as are really</DIV> <DIV>> necessary...</DIV> <DIV>></DIV> <DIV>> Attached you find a gif with variations on my spellings - do you</DIV> <DIV>> agree with</DIV> <DIV>> that too ?</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>If you sign it differently then I am sure you are writing it</DIV> <DIV>correctly for the way you sign it! smile...</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>On the video he started with 8 handshapes parallel to the floor...</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV></TD></TR><TR><TD id="INCREDIFOOTER" width="100%"> <TABLE cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" width="100%"> <TBODY><TR><TD width="100%"></TD><TD id="INCREDISOUND" valign="bottom" align="middle"></TD><TD id="INCREDIANIM" valign="bottom" align="middle"></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE><SPAN id="IncrediStamp"><SPAN ltr??=""><A href="http://www.incredimail.com/index.asp?id=409&lang=9"><SPAN><DIV><IMSTP.gif></DIV></SPAN></A></SPAN></SPAN></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV><BR></DIV></BODY></HTML>