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<DIV><FONT face="ＭＳ Ｐゴシック" color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=586291506-02062005>I
got it! Disregard my previous post. I clicked help, learned that I needed to
click on the SignSpellings, and once I did that, everything happened just as you
described.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="ＭＳ Ｐゴシック" color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN
class=586291506-02062005></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="ＭＳ Ｐゴシック" color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN
class=586291506-02062005>And my entry came out in Japanese. Does this mean
that is is also possible for the Japanese Sign Language section to have all the
menus written in Japanese as well? What would need to be done for this to
happen?</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="ＭＳ Ｐゴシック" color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN
class=586291506-02062005></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="ＭＳ Ｐゴシック" color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN
class=586291506-02062005>Mark</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader lang=ja dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Tahoma
size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B>
owner-sw-l@majordomo.valenciacc.edu
[mailto:owner-sw-l@majordomo.valenciacc.edu] <B>On Behalf Of
</B>pennersw@ybb.ne.jp<BR><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, June 02, 2005 3:05
PM<BR><B>To:</B> sw-l@majordomo.valenciacc.edu<BR><B>Subject:</B> RE: [sw-l]
SignPuddle 2.0 beta<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="ＭＳ Ｐゴシック" color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN
class=823015705-02062005>Hi Steve,</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="ＭＳ Ｐゴシック" color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN
class=823015705-02062005>SignPuddle 2.0 looks exciting! Unicode means we will
be able to do our work in Japanese, right? That is
excellent!!</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="ＭＳ Ｐゴシック" color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN
class=823015705-02062005></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="ＭＳ Ｐゴシック" color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN
class=823015705-02062005>I tried using the community dictionary. I opened
SignMaker, made a sign, and hit "add to dictionary". On the screen, all I
saw was the sign I had added, but there was no place to name it or add
definitions, and no special commands.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face="ＭＳ Ｐゴシック" color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN
class=823015705-02062005>I thought perhaps this was because I hadn't logged
in. I tried logging in under my name and password for SignPuddle 1.0, but
that didn't work. How can I log in, and how can I add signs to the dictionary?
I really want to try adding a definition in Japanese to show the people I'm
working with.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN lang=EN-US><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN lang=EN-US><o:p><SPAN class=823015705-02062005><FONT
face="ＭＳ Ｐゴシック" color=#0000ff size=2>Thanks for the great program, and for
helping me get used to it.</FONT></SPAN></o:p></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN lang=EN-US><o:p><SPAN class=823015705-02062005><FONT
face="ＭＳ Ｐゴシック" color=#0000ff size=2></FONT></SPAN></o:p></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN lang=EN-US><o:p><SPAN class=823015705-02062005><FONT
face="ＭＳ Ｐゴシック" color=#0000ff size=2>Mark</FONT></SPAN></o:p></SPAN></DIV>
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class=823015705-02062005> </SPAN>-----Original
Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> owner-sw-l@majordomo.valenciacc.edu
[mailto:owner-sw-l@majordomo.valenciacc.edu] <B>On Behalf Of </B>Steve
Slevinski<BR><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, May 28, 2005 12:19 PM<BR><B>To:</B>
sw-l@majordomo.valenciacc.edu<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [sw-l] SignPuddle 2.0
beta<BR><BR></DIV></FONT></FONT>Hi Val,<BR><BR>The langauge list is
ridiculously long. Eventually, this list will be dictionary
specific. So each dictionary can decide what langauges they want to
use.<BR><BR>When you looked at the signs you added, you should have noticed
2 columns of special commands.<BR><BR>The first column is for anyone:
Customize, Search, and Copy.<BR><BR>The second column is for editors and
sign owners. Since you created the sign, you own the sign and can use
the editing commands: Edit, Spelling, Labels, and Delete These editing
commands work directly on the existing sign. <BR><BR>Edit - load the
sign into SignMaker.<BR>Spelling - open the sign spelling window so you can
modify the spelling.<BR>Labels - open the sign labels window for changing
the labels text.<BR><BR>Since I'm an editor for the dictionary, I was able
to modify your English label for "twelve". <BR><BR>Val's Label:<BR>12.
twelve.<BR><BR>New Label:<BR>12<BR>twelve<BR> hidden text
here<BR><BR>If you search for 12 and display the results in words, you will
notice that "12" and "twelve" each appear as unique items. The
original English label, "12. twelve." would have appeared as one item.
<BR><BR>Notice that " hidden text here" doesn't appear in the list because
it starts with a space. This is a technique for hiding text, but still
making it searchable. I will probably change this so that it is easier
to hide text from the words list.<BR><BR>-Steve<BR><BR><BR>Valerie Sutton
wrote:
<BLOCKQUOTE cite=midD405C9B8-B833-4E04-930F-7127D88945B5@signwriting.org
type="cite">SignWriting List
<DIV>May 27, 2005</DIV>
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<DIV>
<DIV><FONT class=Apple-style-span color=#0000ff>Steve Slevinski
wrote:</FONT></DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">For now, when labeling a sign, only spoken
langauges are available. Unicode is supported, but I haven't
tested it yet. The Labels field can be used for terms, definitions
or anything else. Each phrase should have it's own line in the
labels field. This allows you to have more than one label per
langauge per sign.<BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
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<DIV>Is the SignPuddle Community dictionary a multi-lingual dictionary
that takes one sign, and then gives the definitions for that one sign, in
multiple spoken languages?</DIV>
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<DIV>That is very exciting...</DIV>
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<DIV>So how do you differentiate the individual gloss-word that you use to
find a sign, and the long phrase that might be associated with that
sign?</DIV>
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<DIV>When I used the pull-down menu, to choose the spoken language I
wanted to use, the pull-down menu included spoken languages that are no
longer spoken...like Middle English (used in 1500s) and Ancient Greek
(smile)...which no one speaks today!</DIV>
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<DIV>So can you eliminate the spoken languages that are not used any
longer? The pull-down menu is too long and I could not hold the mouse down
that long because my hand started to hurt...smile...</DIV>
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<DIV>But generally this is a very interesting idea, because most signs are
used in different countries, but oftentimes have different meanings...like
the sign for COOK in ASL can mean TRANSLATE A LANGUAGE.... in Danish Sign
Language etc...
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<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">SignPuddle 1.0 will stay up and active on
SignBank.org for as long as it is used.</BLOCKQUOTE><BR></DIV>
<DIV>Wonderful! So we can continue to work as we are right now, plus we
will have these new features on SignPuddle.org....that is great!</DIV>
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<DIV>many thanks for all this!</DIV>
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<DIV>Val
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