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<DIV>HI val, stefan and others!</DIV>
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<DIV>Thank you for your many answers.</DIV>
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<DIV>Stefan I sign Australia your way, up-down-forward, but if I want to emphasize or other reason I also make a full circle with my hands before I let go of my middle finger as I go down with my hand.... does that make sense? </DIV>
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<DIV>Lucina the black line it "the body" of the signer as seen from the top. </DIV>
<DIV>Stefan I notice that you draw the sign from the top? why that way? will readers of the sign realise it is from the top? Later I will practice more.</DIV>
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<DIV>so the way I show the sign is ok? I have the feeling I show my hands for a start in a unnatural way. Like sideways in front of my chest. then I wasnt't sure of the arrows. The hands don't go diagonal-forward, but 90 degrees from the chest, paralell from one another.</DIV>
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<DIV>Nevermind, my first try! how do I delete signs? I made two signs for Australia, and want one to be removed.</DIV>
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<DIV>next I will have another go at "how-are-you"! Then again I better practice with just one handshape signs first....</DIV>
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<DIV>Antony</DIV>
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<DIV dir=ltr style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt"><I><B>From:</B></I> <A href="mailto:sutton@signwriting.org">Valerie Sutton</A></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt"><I><B>Date:</B></I> 06/02/05 03:28:25</DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt"><I><B>To:</B></I> <A href="mailto:sw-l@majordomo.valenciacc.edu">sw-l@majordomo.valenciacc.edu</A></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt"><I><B>Subject:</B></I> [sw-l] AUSTRALIA Sign for Australia</DIV></DIV>
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<DIV>SignWriting List</DIV>
<DIV>June 1, 2005</DIV>
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<DIV>Stefan Wöhrmann wrote:</DIV>
<DIV>> thanks for this lesson -</DIV>
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<DIV>Ha! It was not a lesson. I just wrote the sign that Antony showed us</DIV>
<DIV>on this web site:</DIV>
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<DIV><A href="http://www.auslan.org.au/index.cfm?">http://www.auslan.org.au/index.cfm?</A></DIV>
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<DIV>Go there and search for the sign Australia. The sign on that video</DIV>
<DIV>does a circle, and then a flick down. I personally do not know the</DIV>
<DIV>sign. I was only trying to write what I saw on the video clip...I can</DIV>
<DIV>imagine there could be many ways to write the exact same sign...</DIV>
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<DIV>> I looked at my dictionary - to compare my spelling -</DIV>
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<DIV>I bet you have a different sign!</DIV>
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<DIV>> I did not look at the video - so it might not go along with that -</DIV>
<DIV>> On the other hand I saw deaf people signing "Australia" here in</DIV>
<DIV>> Germany</DIV>
<DIV>> with kind of up - forward - down movement -</DIV>
<DIV>> I am curious - and anxious to improve my reading skills -</DIV>
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<DIV>There is nothing to be anxious about. We have to make sure that we</DIV>
<DIV>are looking at the same sign first! So go to the web page above, and</DIV>
<DIV>look at their video...</DIV>
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<DIV>> I interpret your spelling as if you do a "complete" circle movement</DIV>
<DIV>> first</DIV>
<DIV>> and afterwards move your hands down with flicking open the hand -</DIV>
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<DIV>That is exactly what i saw on the video, but maybe you see the video</DIV>
<DIV>differently?...take a look and then write again...</DIV>
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<DIV>> I think that this doubled information (flick - symbol) and</DIV>
<DIV>> presentation of</DIV>
<DIV>> the handshape in the final position is ok - but not necessary -</DIV>
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<DIV>I don't know their sign...I was just writing what I thought I saw...</DIV>
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<DIV>> Especially at school and for documents written for children I got</DIV>
<DIV>> used to</DIV>
<DIV>> our "rule" (smile) just write as few symbols as are really</DIV>
<DIV>> necessary...</DIV>
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<DIV>> Attached you find a gif with variations on my spellings - do you</DIV>
<DIV>> agree with</DIV>
<DIV>> that too ?</DIV>
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<DIV>If you sign it differently then I am sure you are writing it</DIV>
<DIV>correctly for the way you sign it! smile...</DIV>
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<DIV>On the video he started with 8 handshapes parallel to the floor...</DIV>
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