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<P>Hello list,</P>
<P>I think colorizing could be a good solution. But I won't be using it in my class. Because we use color to mark parameters of a sign. (handshape, orientation, articulationspace, facial expression, ect..)</P>
<P>Greetings Kathleen<BR><BR></P><BR><BR><BR>>From: "Steve Slevinski" <slevin@signpuddle.net><BR>>Reply-To: sw-l@majordomo.valenciacc.edu<BR>>To: sw-l@majordomo.valenciacc.edu<BR>>Subject: [sw-l] Colorize proper nouns<BR>>Date: Thu, 02 Jun 2005 17:25:47 -0700<BR>><BR>>Hi Stefan and list,<BR>><BR>>What do you think of colorizing proper nouns rather than <BR>>underlining?<BR>><BR>>ASL_2<BR>><BR>>This example uses a color scheme that Val worked on and was widely <BR>>accepted. Val has a beautiful diagram floating around that explains <BR>>using pictures and hex codes.<BR>><BR>>Colorized proper nouns could be used when writing horizontal, <BR>>vertical, or any style.<BR>><BR>>-Steve<BR>><BR>><BR>>Stefan Wöhrmann wrote:<BR>><BR>>>Hi Valerie and everybody, -<BR>>><BR>>>sorry for the delay
-<BR>>><BR>>>first of all - You are right Valerie - of course this line is not a <BR>>>shoulder<BR>>>line -- on the other hand it isn´t a marker for a noun either <BR>>>(smile)<BR>>><BR>>>Well what is it? ha ?<BR>>><BR>>>Valerie your guess is almost correct - ..<BR>>><BR>>>When I started to learn SW in 1999 I followed an idea of James <BR>>>Shepard-Kegl<BR>>>to underline proper names -<BR>>><BR>>>In the meantime we get so used to it and I am still convinced that <BR>>>this is a<BR>>>wonderful support for any fast and easy reading of SW-documents.<BR>>><BR>>>Once you get this information - that it is a proper name of a place <BR>>>or<BR>>>person - it is not your fault if you do not know this sign. So you <BR>>>need<BR>>>additional information ... in
order not to get confused with other <BR>>>signs<BR>>>that will mislead you. More of that You can ask yourself whether <BR>>>you know<BR>>>what person, town, river, country the scribe is signing about.<BR>>><BR>>><BR>>>Ingvild and Valerie - I would like to swear (smile) that there has <BR>>>been<BR>>>never ever the chance of any confusion with shoulder lines or <BR>>>punctuation -<BR>>>if the reader is informed about the strategy.<BR>>><BR>>>Valerie wrote: " I personally would never underline a sign like <BR>>>that,..."<BR>>>...<BR>>>" So I actually did not like that line underneath to show nouns, <BR>>>because I don't think, that in everyday documents we underline or <BR>>>mark the parts in a sentence...that is more for the classroom...for
<BR>>> Deaf children..."<BR>>><BR>>>I feel confused!<BR>>><BR>>>Perhaps in my ears of a foreigner this is a pretty dramatic refusal <BR>>>- almost<BR>>>kind of devaluation<BR>>><BR>>>Hm - ok - Somehow I feel a little bit sorry to practice a <BR>>>spelling-style<BR>>>that is so much against your attitude.<BR>>><BR>>>But it works so wonderfully. And I guess not only within the field <BR>>>of deaf<BR>>>education ;-))<BR>>><BR>>><BR>>>Stefan ;-))<BR>>><BR>>><BR>>>-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----<BR>>>Von: owner-sw-l@majordomo.valenciacc.edu<BR>>>[mailto:owner-sw-l@majordomo.valenciacc.edu] Im Auftrag von Valerie <BR>>>Sutton<BR>>>Gesendet: Donnerstag, 2. Juni 2005 18:14<BR>>>An:
sw-l@majordomo.valenciacc.edu<BR>>>Betreff: Re: [sw-l] Re: AUSTRALIA Sign for Australia - black line <BR>>>etc<BR>>><BR>>>SignWriting List<BR>>>June 2, 2005<BR>>><BR>>>Ingvild Roald wrote:<BR>>><BR>>><BR>>>>The full black line should be the shoulder line seen from <BR>>>>'behind'. If<BR>>>>seen from the top, I thought there should be either a beak in the <BR>>>>line<BR>>>>(like there is for the handshapes), or a circle representing the <BR>>>>head. Or<BR>>>>am I wrong?<BR>>>><BR>>>><BR>>><BR>>>Hello Everyone, Ingvild, Lucyna, Antony and Stefan -<BR>>>I didn't want to answer Lucyna's question about why Stefan placed a <BR>>> line underneath all his signs in the attached example, because
I <BR>>>assumed Stefan would answer the question...but now I feel I should <BR>>>step in...<BR>>><BR>>>Years ago, James Shepard-Kegl in Nicaragua, and Stefan in Germany, <BR>>>started using a line underneath any sign that is a noun, or a <BR>>>proper name. The reason? I believe it was because they are <BR>>>teaching Deaf children and they needed a way to teach grammar to <BR>>>their students. And since they were using SignWriter DOS and <BR>>>typing SignWriting from left to right, the line was not confused <BR>>>with other punctuation or shoulders...<BR>>><BR>>>I personally would never underline a sign like that, because I <BR>>>write in vertical columns, and those lines could be misunderstood <BR>>>as
the Period, or end of sentence marking...And I agree, Ingvild, <BR>>>that it could be confused with Shoulder lInes too...<BR>>><BR>>>So I actually did not like that line underneath to show nouns, <BR>>>because I don't think, that in everyday documents we underline or <BR>>>mark the parts in a sentence...that is more for the classroom...for <BR>>> Deaf children...<BR>>><BR>>>So this is Stefan's diagram...it shows signs written for his Deaf <BR>>>students, with underlining to show nouns...<BR>>><BR>>>Stefan - if I have misunderstood what you wanted, please forgive!<BR>>><BR>>><BR>>><BR>>><BR>>><BR>>><BR>>><BR>>><BR>>><BR>><BR></DIV></div><br clear=all><hr>Gratis bloggen op <a href="http://g.msn.com/8HMANLBE/2734??PS=47575" target="_top">MSN Spaces</a> </html>